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Your fanboyism is nauseating.
I'm thinking if that plastic step thingy wasn't there it probably wouldn't have happened. My take away is avoid PA when pickups are there but out of curiosity has anyone else had an issue using this feature when pickups or other higher vehicles are in the space ahead or behind?
FYI just took delivery of 60D and except for the test drive haven't used parking assist yet.
FYI just took delivery of 60D and except for the test drive haven't used parking assist yet.
Did you watch the video? I hope you didn't and just made a stupid comment. Maybe you have a terrible sense of humor?
Looks like this is an Auto Park fail. I have never used that feature, nor do I care for it.
We are already there. Sadly, it is a toy that is a little bit dangerous too.
RogerHScott
Active Member
I wasn't quite ready to draw that conclusion before we find out whether there actually was a malfunction with O.P.'s car.
RogerHScott
Active Member
Your club doesn't provide valet parking? Tut tut, good fellow! Next you're going to tell me they require you to groom your own horse.
K5ING
MegaMiler
Just a thought here, but could it have anything to do with the fact that you were parking on the left side of the street? Most parallel parking is done on the right side of the street. Could it be that the left and right side parking sensors/software are calibrated differently?
EVS Motors
Former Vendor
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somnambule
Member
Good theory. It's also possible the sensors couldn't detect the protrusion at the bottom of the step in the truck's bumper (as it extends beyond the rest of the bumper). In either case, this implies park assist leaves a ridiculously small margin for error, which is consistent with my observations when using the feature.
It should be easy for Tesla to "fix" this, if they choose to do so, by slightly increasing the margin they leave to the car in front. IMO, it's a perfectly good tradeoff to increase the minimum parking spot size that park assist can park in if it means we can actually trust it.
RogerHScott
Active Member
While I agree that the by-far preferred failure mode is for it to demure, at some point (I think we're pretty much already there) it works in so few circumstances as to be effectively useless.
It's obvious from the photos that ultrasonic sensor lost track of the pickup bed as it was closing in due to FOV of the ultrasonic sensor. As it got closer it probably 'thought' that vehicle ended where tire was.
This is not the first time sensors are not reliably detecting object that are off the ground. I doubt that rumored extra radar in the corner would fix this issue. I think cameras in the mirrors would work the best could work in tandem with ultrasonic sensors for better blind spot detection as well.
EDIT: on the second thought camera in mirror would not have been in a position to gauge distance to the truck either. Probably secondary sensor in the wheel well would be a better option.
This is not the first time sensors are not reliably detecting object that are off the ground. I doubt that rumored extra radar in the corner would fix this issue. I think cameras in the mirrors would work the best could work in tandem with ultrasonic sensors for better blind spot detection as well.
EDIT: on the second thought camera in mirror would not have been in a position to gauge distance to the truck either. Probably secondary sensor in the wheel well would be a better option.
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RHD cars need to park left-side in UK, Australia and Japan, etc. Needs to operate as software that can "flip the circumstances" and work the same whether left or right. In computer programming, it can come down to a negative sign on a formula rather than positive when the car location is mapped out on the X and Y axis. If anyone has ever "programmed Pong" in any computer language and worked on X/Y coordinates, you know what I mean.
jeffro01
Active Member
I disagree completely, I've used it well over 100 times without fail, without issue, without even a close call in tight spaces. I'm not saying it's perfect, but to say its "a bridge too far for Tesla" is absurd.
Jeff
Wuggado?
Member
Agreed. I can't help but think that all the folks desperately waiting for fully autonomous driving have a longer wait than some of the car companies are promising. Just too many things that can go wrong, especially when you mix fully autonomous cars with fully idiot driven cars. Not a good mix in my opinion.
Just to be clear, I am not implying that anyone on this forum is an idiot driver, but I do see idiot drivers practically every time I hit the streets.
RogerHScott
Active Member
Are you disagreeing that it has problems under the circumstances described, or merely saying that you, personally, have been
fortunate enough to not encounter those circumstances?
jeffro01
Active Member
What I'm saying is your overreaction was uncalled for. I wouldn't say my lack of issues with the feature represent good fortune on my part either.
I just don't get the overreaction and the suggestion that the feature doesn't work or that Tesla should pull it back because this thread exists...
Jeff
RogerHScott
Active Member
I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but you didn't answer my question. The reason I asked is that if you are encountering these same circumstances and not having these problems then you might be able to share with us your "secret" to making it work, which is what we
all ultimately want (not to tear down Tesla). Btw, the ("perceived") problems with parallel auto-park go way beyond the topic of this particular thread.
Tam
Well-Known Member
How will this crash scenario be prevented in future upgrade/improvement?
After an owner who didn't know that he activated the summoning and left the car unsupervised and it crashed into the top front a tall semi-trailer bed,
Tesla revised the procedure to include another acknowledgement step to make sure driver is aware of summoning and is to hang around to babysit the system to make sure an owner would intervene to stop the car from crashing in the same scenario.
Could it be that Tesla has problems of crashing onto taller obstacles such as the mark of bumper damage is just above the sensor in this parallel parking case?
Should more sensors be added, and may be at a higher locations to detect taller obstacles such as pickup and semi trucks?
After an owner who didn't know that he activated the summoning and left the car unsupervised and it crashed into the top front a tall semi-trailer bed,
Tesla revised the procedure to include another acknowledgement step to make sure driver is aware of summoning and is to hang around to babysit the system to make sure an owner would intervene to stop the car from crashing in the same scenario.
Could it be that Tesla has problems of crashing onto taller obstacles such as the mark of bumper damage is just above the sensor in this parallel parking case?
Should more sensors be added, and may be at a higher locations to detect taller obstacles such as pickup and semi trucks?
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