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Parking Sensor Retrofit WILL NOT happen.

Discussion in 'Model S: User Interface' started by wormhole, Oct 30, 2013.

  1. wormhole

    wormhole Banned

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    Reached out to someone at tesla. Inquired about tesla enabling third parties to tap into software to enable third party hardware using Tesla UI. Here is response I got.

    "Well, not really. It is a bit more complicated from what I understand. We are not offering it as an option because the hardware connections (wiring) is not there. Retrofit would require new rear and front harnesses along with front and rear bumpers, park assist controller, vehicle configuration change AND firmware. Also most aftermarket systems would not play nicely with our setup. In short it would be cheaper and much easier for existing owners to source an aftermarket setup rather than retrofit the factory system. "
     
  2. bhuwan

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    kinda what I expected.
     
  3. nkohlimd

    nkohlimd Member

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    Bhuwan
    met with Sound in Motion today. They will give me a groupbuy price for front and rear parking sensors-audible only-by nov 13th in anticipation of our group dinner...they think about $1000.....stay tuned.
     
  4. bhuwan

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    Excellent. Do they paint the sensor to match the bumper?
     
  5. yobigd20

    yobigd20 Well-Known Member

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    I call BS. As a software engineer, they obviously have an interface of some kind. If there are hardware interfaces of some sort they could provide specs for us to create an adapter and hook into their API some how. This isn't cool. The config change and firmware mods is simply a flag that needs to be enabled. They should give us the ability to purchase the harnesses and controllers and do the install ourselves.
     
  6. bhuwan

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    Curious - has anyone asked if they would sell us the sensors and harness? Wondering if they would and let us get it done after market
     
  7. nrcooled

    nrcooled P#8946 VIN 03225

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    This is the best idea. Give us the hardware and bring the car in for the software update.

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  8. JPP

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    At today’s event @ Chrissy Field in SF, I had the opportunity to talk with Jerome G, and get a close look at his personal (well..corporate with MFG tags) red P85+ (debadged). He was very generous and gracious with his time, and fairly candid. He noted that essentially every new feature/add-on/update/retrofit gets put on his S early (he really is on the bleeding/alpha edge), with all of the attendant woes and benefits. He has tested tires (original Contis, new Michelins), suspension upgrades, parking sensors, power folding mirrors, and so on.

    I asked about the parking distance control system, and the possibility of retrofits. He in fact had them retrofitted into his personal S. There are many significant issues, and this will not ever be offered as an ‘advertised’, mainstream upgrade.

    Here is a rear view of his S (bad photo):

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    First, there is the technical and cosmetic issue about making holes in the front and rear bumper fascia. In his opinion, trying to create holes in the painted bumper fascia is fraught with cosmetic issues, with paint flaking and a subtle uneven appearance to the openings. In forward production, they use a sonic system to make a very precise clean hole without disrupting the paint. Also, in the retrofit, the mounting system to the fascia apparently needs to be different than the system used in forward production, and he was/is unhappy with the fitment. He showed me the cosmetic result on his personal S, and I agree that it just does not look perfect.

    More significant is the wiring harness. Older production vehicles do not have the necessary wiring. Even current production, depending on the ‘build list’, might not have the proper wiring for a retrofit (apparently they do use different harnesses and wiring looms depending on options ordered). In some instances, he noted that doing a retrofit would be essentially impossible due to the complexity of rewiring the chassis.

    Jerome did not rule out the possibility of individual owners asking if TM would (for essentially any price) in fact do a retrofit, but IMHO this will never show up as a ‘factory approved’ option.

    I think that if you are waiting for this, and you must have parking sensors, find a local installer/customizer and decide if aftermarket will work for you. Also note that one TMC contributor is working on a retrofit front bumper camera (identical to the existing rear camera) that might be an easier better option for S owners who are concerned about front bumper damage.

    Sorry for the bad news.
     
  9. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    Thanks for the info. Disappointing but nice that they aren't willing to release something unless they are happy with the results.
     
  10. neroden

    neroden Happy Model S Owner

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    Yeah, but it won't show up in the touchscreen. Not wasting my time on that.

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    Given that Tesla isn't even capable of complying with the licenses for the software they're distributing, exposing Tesla to enormous financial risk, this level of "we don't know what we're doing" is what I've come to expect from Tesla's so-called software engineers. It does not please me to say this.
     

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