Today I'm charging at supercharger station where there's 16 stations. Im using one leaving 15 available. Here comes an idiot wants to park next to me and charge. I roll down my window and say excuse me all of these vacant stations why do you want to charge next to me. Idiot replies and says oh I always charge here thats why. I tell him you know if you charge next to me you make my charging tome longer. He says thats bullshit. And just kept on charging. I disconnect mine and move and at the same time I tell him you buy a tesla and dont know anything about charging manners. Biggest idiot of all time. I bet he'll look that up and then realize how much of an idiot he really is.
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People not knowing how Paired Supercharger stations work are frustrating
- Thread starter Lowell
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If someone parks next to you wanting to charge while there's a whole lot of stations available watch out cause that person is an idiot and doesn't know anything about charging.
android04
Active Member
Tesla doesn’t educate people on these things when they buy the car and people coming from an ICE car likely wouldn’t even think this would be a restriction. I’d give most people the benefit of the doubt and use the opportunity to inform them though I do think Tesla can do a better job on these sorts of details, the car could warn you when pulling in for instance.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
You sound like a super helpful and informative dude.
Unfortunately it's a technical detail that most people don't want to care about. It's also specific to V2 superchargers... We can't expect most people to care so it's no use arguing. When that happens to me, I move and that's it...
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
It sucks, but at the end of the day you lose what, 10 minutes and that’s if you’re at a low state of charge when they plugged in next to you.
Is it really worth being pissed off about it for the rest of the day or even for the rest of the charging session?
Is it really worth being pissed off about it for the rest of the day or even for the rest of the charging session?
bsf29
Member
It doesn't impact your charging. 1st one starting to charge at the pair gets the full available charge and your leftover goes to the other person. Most people assume that their rate is impacted because the v2 chargers "drops faster" than a v3 charger. It's probably the same curve, but there isn't a reason for Tesla to tapper off on a v2 when the v3 is outputting more power at the same SoC.
I agree that it is frustrating that people buy a Tesla and never read the manual, join a local club, or read forum posts to get the most out of their vehicle. But how many people read any manual to understand what they just purchased.
I agree that it is frustrating that people buy a Tesla and never read the manual, join a local club, or read forum posts to get the most out of their vehicle. But how many people read any manual to understand what they just purchased.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Wrong, they’ve been splitting down the middle for at least a couple years now when somebody plugs in on your B if you’re on A at a V2.
I have Teslafi logs that document this quite well.
ucmndd
Well-Known Member
As @ElectricIAC mentioned, this has not been true for at least a couple years. Nowadays if two cars are sharing a v2 charger and each wants max charge rate, the power is immediately split 50/50.
Next time just wait to see if the person goes into a restaurant or shopping mall before you change spots. They may have been banking on the slower charge rate to have time to do their activity and not worry about idle fees.
The idle fees only apply if the Supercharger is at least 50% full though, right? So probably not a factor if it’s 90% empty when someone pulls in.
bsf29
Member
Thanks @ucmndd @ElectriclAC for educating me on how v2 splits now. I'm old school and have always avoided using a pair when possible. When someone parks on my pair I use it as an opportunity to educate them and now I have more reason to do so.
Most of my long routes have multiple charging options and it is easy to pick open v2 if I can't get to a v3. I also like to use the less convenient spot from restaurant/restroom which cuts down on people parking next to me. What I really hate are the sites that don't have A & B next to each other and having to figure out which pair is open.
Most of my long routes have multiple charging options and it is easy to pick open v2 if I can't get to a v3. I also like to use the less convenient spot from restaurant/restroom which cuts down on people parking next to me. What I really hate are the sites that don't have A & B next to each other and having to figure out which pair is open.
Ha! The same thing happened to me one time back in 2018. It was at the Catoosa (Tulsa-ish), OK Supercharger, which is a V2. It's in the parking lot of the Hard Rock hotel and casino. I had plugged in, and was the only one there, and went inside to hang out for a while.
When I came back out, there was one other person at the 8 stall location, and he had plugged into the one stall paired with mine.
I went over and talked with him and let him know that by using a stall that's paired with someone else's like that, it might slow down his charging.
"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied.
"Well, right. You are now, because my car is almost full, so my stall isn't pulling very much power, so it doesn't happen to be affecting yours this time, but I'm letting you know so that you can be aware of it in the future."
"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied, as if his synapses had not fired at all.
When I came back out, there was one other person at the 8 stall location, and he had plugged into the one stall paired with mine.
I went over and talked with him and let him know that by using a stall that's paired with someone else's like that, it might slow down his charging.
"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied.
"Well, right. You are now, because my car is almost full, so my stall isn't pulling very much power, so it doesn't happen to be affecting yours this time, but I'm letting you know so that you can be aware of it in the future."
"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied, as if his synapses had not fired at all.
swaltner
Active Member
If you go to Settings > Charging in the vehicle and then scroll to the bottom of the screen, there is a Supercharging Tips "link" that provides the following info that is a good overview that is easy to understand.
I wish when you get to the supercharge a note automatically pops up on the screen showing the tips and/or just a note saying leave a space in between when possible.
TomServo
Active Member
I hope Tesla has plans to update high-usage V2 stations to V3 soon. That would solve this problem, which would be a cost-effective way to increase charging throughput.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
No sense in ripping out functional V2’s, install supplemental V3’s where needed.
