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People not knowing how Paired Supercharger stations work are frustrating

Today I'm charging at supercharger station where there's 16 stations. Im using one leaving 15 available. Here comes an idiot wants to park next to me and charge. I roll down my window and say excuse me all of these vacant stations why do you want to charge next to me. Idiot replies and says oh I always charge here thats why. I tell him you know if you charge next to me you make my charging tome longer. He says thats bullshit. And just kept on charging. I disconnect mine and move and at the same time I tell him you buy a tesla and dont know anything about charging manners. Biggest idiot of all time. I bet he'll look that up and then realize how much of an idiot he really is.
 
Tesla doesn’t educate people on these things when they buy the car and people coming from an ICE car likely wouldn’t even think this would be a restriction. I’d give most people the benefit of the doubt and use the opportunity to inform them though I do think Tesla can do a better job on these sorts of details, the car could warn you when pulling in for instance.
 
It doesn't impact your charging. 1st one starting to charge at the pair gets the full available charge and your leftover goes to the other person. Most people assume that their rate is impacted because the v2 chargers "drops faster" than a v3 charger. It's probably the same curve, but there isn't a reason for Tesla to tapper off on a v2 when the v3 is outputting more power at the same SoC.

I agree that it is frustrating that people buy a Tesla and never read the manual, join a local club, or read forum posts to get the most out of their vehicle. But how many people read any manual to understand what they just purchased.
 

ElectricIAC

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It doesn't impact your charging. 1st one starting to charge at the pair gets the full available charge and your leftover goes to the other person. Most people assume that their rate is impacted because the v2 chargers "drops faster" than a v3 charger. It's probably the same curve, but there isn't a reason for Tesla to tapper off on a v2 when the v3 is outputting more power at the same SoC.

I agree that it is frustrating that people buy a Tesla and never read the manual, join a local club, or read forum posts to get the most out of their vehicle. But how many people read any manual to understand what they just purchased.
Wrong, they’ve been splitting down the middle for at least a couple years now when somebody plugs in on your B if you’re on A at a V2.

I have Teslafi logs that document this quite well.
 

ucmndd

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It doesn't impact your charging. 1st one starting to charge at the pair gets the full available charge and your leftover goes to the other person.

As @ElectricIAC mentioned, this has not been true for at least a couple years. Nowadays if two cars are sharing a v2 charger and each wants max charge rate, the power is immediately split 50/50.
 
Next time just wait to see if the person goes into a restaurant or shopping mall before you change spots. They may have been banking on the slower charge rate to have time to do their activity and not worry about idle fees.
The idle fees only apply if the Supercharger is at least 50% full though, right? So probably not a factor if it’s 90% empty when someone pulls in.
 
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Thanks @ucmndd @ElectriclAC for educating me on how v2 splits now. I'm old school and have always avoided using a pair when possible. When someone parks on my pair I use it as an opportunity to educate them and now I have more reason to do so.
Most of my long routes have multiple charging options and it is easy to pick open v2 if I can't get to a v3. I also like to use the less convenient spot from restaurant/restroom which cuts down on people parking next to me. What I really hate are the sites that don't have A & B next to each other and having to figure out which pair is open.
 
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Rocky_H

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Ha! The same thing happened to me one time back in 2018. It was at the Catoosa (Tulsa-ish), OK Supercharger, which is a V2. It's in the parking lot of the Hard Rock hotel and casino. I had plugged in, and was the only one there, and went inside to hang out for a while.

When I came back out, there was one other person at the 8 stall location, and he had plugged into the one stall paired with mine.

I went over and talked with him and let him know that by using a stall that's paired with someone else's like that, it might slow down his charging.

"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied.

"Well, right. You are now, because my car is almost full, so my stall isn't pulling very much power, so it doesn't happen to be affecting yours this time, but I'm letting you know so that you can be aware of it in the future."

"But I'm getting over 100 kW." he replied, as if his synapses had not fired at all.
 

swaltner

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If you go to Settings > Charging in the vehicle and then scroll to the bottom of the screen, there is a Supercharging Tips "link" that provides the following info that is a good overview that is easy to understand.

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