Performance front brake pads

[JADCa]

I think brake cooling is needed more than anything. Air flow will hurt drag but help the brakes immensely.

 

[EVTuning]

Air flow definitely will help and a lot of times you don't need more brake you need more cooling. Going with bigger brakes while giving you more surface area for the pad to contact and usually a higher number of pistons the other benefit is a larger rotor can absorb more heat than a smaller one. From my BMW days there were so many people that wanted $3k+ brake setups when a simple set of ducts and backing plates would go a long way to helping with cooling.

I have partnered with Stoptech and we are working on some braking upgrades. For the short term I have a couple different options from Stoptech for replacement front pads as well as some options from Hawk Performance which is another popular option. They can be found HERE we will be working on more pad choices as well as big brake kits in the near future and hopefully some brake cooling options too.

 

[rtanov]

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I was sent pics of the rear brake pads. Does anyone have a 2015-2017 mustang that has pads that look like the attached picture?

I bought a a cheap set of 2015-17 Mustang pads and they do not fit - similar but different shape & size:

Here are some pictures with dimensions in case someone is able to find an exact match - I wasn't :-(

 

[EVTuning]

@MountainPass and myself are working hard with multiple brake pad manufacturers to find an option. This information is definitely helpful.

 

[scrapps]

@EVTuning do you have any numbers for comparison between the StopTech pads and stock, post firmware update?

 

[EVTuning]

I do not yet. They have better initial bite vs the stock pads and better tolerance to high heat. I’ve had them on several vehicles that I have owned and always been happy with them. I’m still waiting on my Model 3 to arrive and then we plan to do comparisons with pads, @MountainPass rotor upgrade and with different tires. People always neglect to realize that tire choice is equally important. You can have the most ridiculous brakes in the world but if the tires can’t keep up you’re just going to skid.

 

[rtanov]

Looks like the rear caliper is made by Mando. Maybe this might help...

 

[AllenTech]

My friend already purchased a cheap set of pads and checked and they fit.

A point of clarification; are you confirming the Pontiac G8 2009 pads are a match for the front brake pads on a LR/RWD Model 3? Thank you for your response. I am getting prepared for the Buttonwillow, CA Event this weekend.

 

[rtanov]

I believe these are the correct size pads for the front of the LR/RWD Model 3. I don't think they are for any of the 2009 G8 models.
HB193G.610
Federal Mogul - Racing & Motorcycle Division Online Catalogue

 

[EVTuning]

I believe these are the correct size pads for the front of the LR/RWD Model 3. I don't think they are for any of the 2009 G8 models.
HB193G.610
Federal Mogul - Racing & Motorcycle Division Online Catalogue

193 is the right shape but they'll need to be machined down to less that 16mm in order to fit properly.

 

[Nocturnal]

The brakes were the only let down when my son lapped my TM3 at the Mid-Ohio this weekend:
Tesla Model 3 shows off acceleration in latest high-speed racetrack run
My Model 3 at the Mid-Ohio Race Track

How much were you on the brakes? I've tracked mine twice and didn't have any issues.

 

[rtanov]

My son only did 3 laps, by the third they'd overheated, so he had to exit.

 

[AltLogic]

193 is the right shape but they'll need to be machined down to less that 16mm in order to fit properly.

I believe EBC makes pads in the proper thickness. So does one other manufacturer but I can’t remember the brand.

 

[TeeEmCee]

Air flow definitely will help and a lot of times you don't need more brake you need more cooling. Going with bigger brakes while giving you more surface area for the pad to contact and usually a higher number of pistons the other benefit is a larger rotor can absorb more heat than a smaller one. From my BMW days there were so many people that wanted $3k+ brake setups when a simple set of ducts and backing plates would go a long way to helping with cooling.

I have partnered with Stoptech and we are working on some braking upgrades. For the short term I have a couple different options from Stoptech for replacement front pads as well as some options from Hawk Performance which is another popular option. They can be found HERE we will be working on more pad choices as well as big brake kits in the near future and hopefully some brake cooling options too.

Looking at this chart, HP+ should brake harder than HPS in all circumstances. Is that really the case?

Rotor wear aside, is there any reason to not use HP+ on the street? I'm looking for better initial bite and modulation and not necessarily for very high temperature performance. I also don't care all that much if that comes at the expense of higher rotor wear as long as it's not horrible.

 

[EVTuning]

Looking at this chart, HP+ should brake harder than HPS in all circumstances. Is that really the case?

Rotor wear aside, is there any reason to not use HP+ on the street? I'm looking for better initial bite and modulation and not necessarily for very high temperature performance. I also don't care all that much if that comes at the expense of higher rotor wear as long as it's not horrible.



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Hp+ are like a city bus coming to a stop. Otherwise they’re great just noisy as hell.

 

[TeeEmCee]

Hp+ are like a city bus coming to a stop. Otherwise they’re great just noisy as hell.

Thank you!
For the purpose I described above, would you recommend HPS or a differnt pad?

 

[EVTuning]

Thank you!
For the purpose I described above, would you recommend HPS or a differnt pad?

Depends on your ability, and also tires. HPS I run on the street without any issues. I haven’t made it to a HPDE yet to see whether or not they’re enough. I also have/sell the MPP brake rotor upgrade so I may be able to bleed off enough heat where the rotors are 45mm bigger.

 

[MountainPass]

My son only did 3 laps, by the third they'd overheated, so he had to exit.

It depends on your driving level, consider it awesome that he was able to cook them in 3 laps!

 

[Nocturnal]

My son only did 3 laps, by the third they'd overheated, so he had to exit.

I guess I relied on regen. Mine were definitely warm but I didn't experience any fade. (with the P3D+)

 

[AltLogic]

193 is the right shape but they'll need to be machined down to less that 16mm in order to fit properly.

Please do not post misleading information. The Hawk brakes he referenced end in 610 and therefore are 0.610” thick.