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I hope you're right, but then again it means I have to delay for an indeterminate time period to get the car I've really been waiting for.There is no way that this is the performance car- remember the photos of the "huge brakes" on the car with air suspension? There was no word of that. This just sounds like a way to make more money selling performance options on a base car.
Elon already confirmed on Twitter that the performance 3 comes with "sport level brakes." So, now we just wait for confirmation on the suspension. Also, it doesn't have to be anything fancy to achieve high levels of performance.I'm expecting some sort of innovative suspension setup (e.g. air/magnetic hybrid), performance software settings, upgraded brakes, and some trick aero components. If not, then I won't be impressed. Until anything official comes out we are all armchair racing anyway
I'm expecting some sort of innovative suspension setup (e.g. air/magnetic hybrid), performance software settings, upgraded brakes, and some trick aero components. If not, then I won't be impressed. Until anything official comes out we are all armchair racing anyway
I'm guessing the suspension won't be that crazy. This is just something to be a placeholder until the air suspension comes out later.
How many drag or track race their daily driver? big market segment </sarcasm>
After reading this thread, I'd go get a used Miata and spend extra money to get what I wanted/could afford and go racing.
Trying to buy a "new track car" seems silly to me.
How many drag or track race their daily driver? big market segment </sarcasm>
After reading this thread, I'd go get a used Miata and spend extra money to get what I wanted/could afford and go racing.
Trying to buy a "new track car" seems silly to me.
That, like air suspension, is more of a comfort option.A fully adjustable magnetic suspension setup would be ideal...
Old NA & NB Miatas are fantastic track toys and so cheap they're practically disposable... probably one of the most enjoyable road cars short of an Elise.After reading this thread, I'd go get a used Miata and spend extra money to get what I wanted/could afford and go racing.
Trying to buy a "new track car" seems silly to me.
stopping and handling - avoiding collisions - are certainly key safety features of any carIt doesn't really matter. The benchmark for a sports sedan has been the M3 for decades. I'd say 95% of M3's never see the track either, doesn't really keep BMW from making a great car that can drive on the street or the track.
Based on Elon's claim, the Model 3 should outperform the M3. If people are dropping that much cash on the Performance model, they want it to be able to hang with the big boys on the track. They might not be taking it to the track every weekend but it's nice to have that option.
There has been a mention of sport brakes....whatever that means.There is no way that this is the performance car- remember the photos of the "huge brakes" on the car with air suspension? There was no word of that. This just sounds like a way to make more money selling performance options on a base car.
If there are no brake and suspension upgrades, consider me very disappointed. While 3.5 seconds is very fast, if you don’t have any of the supporting mods to go with it, it’s just meaningless to me.
My current car, a 2010 Infiniti G37xS sedan with tons of aftermarket parts is faster than most anything I come across on the street. And that’s a 5 second 0-60 car.
I hope we get further word of upgraded brakes and suspension. It would make the price easier to swallow.
Original Question of this thread.
Performance - Excited or Disappointed?
Excited about Specs.
Disappointed about price vs AWD.
Someone help me justify the price.
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Why worry about the suspension and brakes? If it beats everything in its class on the track, isn’t that what matters? The rest is just a means to an end.
The price is justified if Elon is correct about its performance relative to its peers and this is an important factor to you. A loaded BMW M3 is even more expensive.
Also, if it helps, your resale value will be higher.
Just adding power and stickier tires to the Model 3 will not make it beat a BMW M3 on the track unless it's a drag stripWhy worry about the suspension and brakes? If it beats everything in its class on the track, isn’t that what matters? The rest is just a means to an end.
stopping and handling - avoiding collisions - are certainly key safety features of any car
Model 3 will have the same continuous improvements as Model S/X - it is the Tesla way.
I'll point to Elon's tweets about the brakes - and since it is safety related he promised to do hardware upgrades for any Model 3 that might need hardware upgrades - we shall see.
beat a Chevy ? Camaro and Vette ? Dodge Demon ? in or out of class?Lets hope that Performance is worth the money. I appreciate you comparing the Model 3 to its competition and not to cars outside of its class.