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Performance not performing
- Thread starter jliver33
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It's the "within spec" that worries me. How can a supposedly performance vehicle with a 50% power drop from half battery be within spec? Nuts.
HenryT
Active Member
Just as an aside, does anyone know if the 2021 LR with the acceleration boost suffers the same performance drop off as the 2021 M3P or does it retain the same profile as it had pre-AB?
Interesting thought. That would certainly indicate whether it's the battery that's the problem - given the P has a different battery to the LR.
I'm betting there is no spec. If there is they would be able to show it to the OP. Getting fed up with these 'that's what happens when it's cold/low SOC' comments from Tesla.
ACarneiro
Active Member
Envchem
Member
You would expect them to do more testing when they change main structural parts of the cars like the battery and adding the heat pump. I bet all testing was done in nice Californian weather...
I do feel sorry for your troubles. I feel happy now that I didn't take the bait and swapped over a 2021 3 when I got the email from Tesla about part changing etc.
My advice to you all that are waiting for your delivery of an M3P is to just hold tight and see what happens when you pick up your car. You have 7 days to return your car so I would suggest to make a number of tests within those 7 days to make sure this issue has been resolved.
Reading the posts from people who have had the issue, it sounds like an issue with the battery. New orders that are due in May will be coming from China which we haven't seen any Performance models from there yet so the battery might either be fixed or the batch from China might not have the same issue.
Some of the tests I will be running when I get mine in May.
1. 0-60 - 90% SOC no heating or cooling
2. 0-60 - 90% SOC heating on high
3. 0-60 - 90% SOC cooling on high
4. 0-60 - 50% SOC no heating or cooling
5. 0-60 - 50% SOC heating on high
6. 0-60 - 50% SOC cooling on high
7. 0-60 - 30% SOC no heating or cooling
8. 0-60 - 30% SOC heating on high
9. 0-60 - 30% SOC cooling on high
I know its not 100% scientific, but should get a feel for how it performs under certain charges and if you are not happy, take it back and say its not within your personal 'Spec' and want to return the car.
I'm sure if the problem still exists and enough people do the same, Tesla will sit up and take note.
For those of you who have the issue, I feel for you and would kick up a fuss until it sorted. If there are enough of you and do the same thing, Tesla will have to do something to fix it quickly, more power in numbers.
Reading the posts from people who have had the issue, it sounds like an issue with the battery. New orders that are due in May will be coming from China which we haven't seen any Performance models from there yet so the battery might either be fixed or the batch from China might not have the same issue.
Some of the tests I will be running when I get mine in May.
1. 0-60 - 90% SOC no heating or cooling
2. 0-60 - 90% SOC heating on high
3. 0-60 - 90% SOC cooling on high
4. 0-60 - 50% SOC no heating or cooling
5. 0-60 - 50% SOC heating on high
6. 0-60 - 50% SOC cooling on high
7. 0-60 - 30% SOC no heating or cooling
8. 0-60 - 30% SOC heating on high
9. 0-60 - 30% SOC cooling on high
I know its not 100% scientific, but should get a feel for how it performs under certain charges and if you are not happy, take it back and say its not within your personal 'Spec' and want to return the car.
I'm sure if the problem still exists and enough people do the same, Tesla will sit up and take note.
For those of you who have the issue, I feel for you and would kick up a fuss until it sorted. If there are enough of you and do the same thing, Tesla will have to do something to fix it quickly, more power in numbers.
It's probably the same "spec" as the bonnet adjustment they did making my car look like a 911. I fixed it myself later.
Don't know how it can be both "within spec" and then also "an issue" that they are asking for the chance to resolve.
Don't know how it can be both "within spec" and then also "an issue" that they are asking for the chance to resolve.
That's a boat load of hassle though to take delivery, and then hope it's fixed, and return the car if it's not.
Bearing in mind you'll have probably got rid of your previous car by then too.
I agree, something you shouldn't have to do and won't fit everyone's agenda, but I can see a lot of people are anxious now about their order and worried they made the wrong choice and considering changing to an LR.
I am one of those people who are thinking twice about the performance after reading this thread but I'm fortunate enough to have a second car in the family so no big deal if I have to give it back within the 7 days. As I said, I know not everyone will have that luxury but trying to make options available for those who are worried and can do the same thing.
Alex987854
Member
I've never suffered from the "within spec" answer, but if I did, my reaction would be to ask to see the specification in question. Without it being written down, all it means is "we think it's not worth us putting in the effort".
Jason71
Well-Known Member
I suspect Teslas idea of cold weather testing is waiting for a cloudy day and going for a spin
Jason71
Well-Known Member
isn't the 7day thing overwritten by the UK distance selling regs and therefore its actually 14 days in the UK or something?
there were stories a while back that they dropped the 7 day return in the US completely
Jason71
Well-Known Member
yes AFTER he asked to return it when it became in their interest to do something. Until then they seemed content to to go with the standard "in spec" line and do nothing.
You could be right, I've seen 7 days advertised but you're 100% correct, as you are purchasing from the internet so its covered by distance selling regs, I think its just easier to get as much done within the 7 days though, less hassle and arguing if they decide to try to put you off once the 7 days are over.
