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Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by Lyon, Apr 2, 2013.
I wonder if it's retrofittable?!
Model S Options Pricing | Tesla Motors
Performance Plus Package
Performance Plus upgrades an already impressive handling car by stiffening key suspension linkages and tuning dampers to increase lateral stiffness without compromising ride. 21" wheels with wider rear rims and Michelin Pilot Sport SP2 tires channel these improvements to the road. The result is nothing short of amazing-light, responsive steering with minimal body roll. It's a performance junkie's perfect daily driver.
Really???? $6,500 option?? Really???? Is it really necessary to have this?
Pricey for mostly a suspension upgrade and some wider rear wheels? Wonder if they had to redesign the rear wheel well?
It adds the 21" tires, so that's $3500 of the price. Add more because the rears are wider, and the tires are more expensive and you're down to about $2000 or so for the suspension pieces. Seems reasonable when compared to BMW or Mercedes suspension add ons.
This includes the 21" wheel option of $3500 + $3000 for the other suspension pieces. I'm wondering if the standard 21" wheel gets the Continentals and the performance plus gets the michelin. The michelin tires are nearly twice as expensive as the Conti's. No more tire rotations other than left to right if the tires are not unidirectional.
I want JUST the wider rears...ASAP....
I'm slightly confused. For some reason I recall people saying they were receiving Michelins and the wider rear tires with their P85s. Mine has Continentals (no wider rear tires) and was delivered on 3/29. I assumed my receiving Continentals was a cost-cutting measure similar to the fabric headliner change. I don't care too much, but it seems like those who got the Michelins were the lucky minority?
Not a cost cutting measure. I'm not sure why some came with Pilots, but the website has always listed the Continentals as the tire that comes with the Performance. I believe at some point they were have having supply issues with the Continentals and may have used the more expensive Pilots as a temporary solution.
but then you won't be able to slide around corners as easily :tongue:
my rears are gettin pretty slippery @ only 245mm and < 4mm of tread left.
michelins don't last as long but cost more than the conti's so ? which is really better. I would probably have needed new tires if I had the Michelins
Wow barely got the car and they have a new package...def want the wider rears. That is another thing I thought it could use from the beginning. Shouldn't be too hard to swap out suspension bits. Will Tesla offer an upgrade to us directly? And it looks like the Michelins are actually rated worse than the contis at least on tirerack.com
Would be interested in this...
I'd like a lot more detail on this. Those wider rears and suspension tweaks sound enticing indeed.
Don't forget the trade-offs. Wider tires = more rolling resistance = less range.
The tires probably last a few thousand miles less too, right?
So, better cornering and visual appeal only (assuming you like the look of wider rear tires)? No 0-60 gain?
not if you're not slipping in the first place. Could help on some roads + the pilots are probably a little stickier than the Contis
although the 245 contis don't slip at all on a good road so I think acceleration could be worse since the tire/wheels will weigh more + have more weight to spin.
Better cornering acceleration maybe?
True. But better cornering, and that's huge for me. I've always said that the most important thing in a car is that it holds to the road in a curve, and that it stops when I need it to do so. Plus, I'm getting a fair bit of slipping upon hard acceleration from zero (my car has Pilots), so I figure more rubber is better. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this.) And the range, for me, is not a consideration: I work from home and only got the 85 kWh because that's what came with the Performance version.
the wider wheel size and tire are not the main attraction here, people! it'll help, but the upgrades suspension links will significantly lower body-roll and that's why i hope they can retrofit these ho's onto my car.