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Permanon Aircraft Supershine on my Tesla – supposedly the latest and greatest in car finishes

Discussion in 'Model S: Interior & Exterior' started by artsci, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. timvracer

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    I think it is important for folks to make sure and understand the difference between PROTECTION and SHINY. With my Opti-Coat 7 year finish (yes, no re-applying for 7 years) I am protected against things like bird poop, insect acids, etc. - and it is super hydrophobic. When cleaned, it is not as shiny as the cars with Permanon, but one quick application of a detail solution (I use Optimum's detail spray), and the shine is ridiculously beautiful, comparable to the Permanon shine.

    So the point is from what I am reading, it is important for folks to understand their choice. Ceramic Coatings give you long lasting protection, are super hydrophobic, work inside and out, and can shine great when clean, and super great with a quick detail juice application. If you first apply PPF, well... now you have the protection against all sorts of bad, chips and small dings in particular.

    So it is a matter of what you want... I may try the Permanon for my non-Tesla's as an alternative to claybar/polish/wax every 6 months. However, for my Tesla, very happy I paid for the extra protection and longevity with PPF and 7 year ceramic coating (I think it was 3 coats?)

    That said, the Permanon shine is very impressive for such a simple application, definitely interested in trying it out.
     
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  2. faughtz

    faughtz Model S P85DL

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    artsi,
    Thanks for this.
    I first saw your posting more than a year ago, but it took a while to act. I have used tens of products and hundreds of dollars of various cleaners and products on my bikes and cars, but all streak and smear on my tesla glass. I don't know why that is, it seems to be a different kind of surface. Waxes, cleaners, etc all left residue and streaks on my tesla windshield. For the last few months I have been using distilled water which seemed to be better than anything else. A month ago, I applied Permanon, albeit not in the recommended fashion. For the first application, I used clay and Permanon on a relatively clean car, and I got a streak free shine on paint and glass. Here in LA, where rain is infrequent, I have reapplied Permanon twice more simply by spraying it on the car, and wiping it down. It works.

    Thanks once again
     
  3. 1051

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    Permanon shine is the best:

    Thanks Artsi,

    I just applied to my wife's m3, i have used it on my s and followed the directions that artsi published in this post.

    Left side is with Permanon and Right is before and after using Simple Green. The rest of the images are after applying Permanon.

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  4. Dr. Smoke

    Dr. Smoke My former name was Edmond. Before that, Quantum`.

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    lol, and I got banned (as Edmond) for offering free Permanon kits to several in this forum, including artsci. Well there's forward thinking for ya.

    Not doing that favor anymore.
     
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    Dr. Smoke My former name was Edmond. Before that, Quantum`.

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    (And I didn't mean this to reflect negatively on artsci, quite the contrary)
     
  6. swegman

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    Artsci, after a year and a half since you first posted about Permanon Aircraft Supershine, do you still feel it is the best product? How has it held up?

    I tried to find the product using the link you provided but couldn't find it in the aircraft section. Is it the silver line or gold line?
     
  7. artsci

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    Artsci, after a year and a half since you first posted about Permanon Aircraft Supershine, do you still feel it is the best product? How has it held up?

    I tried to find the product using the link you provided but couldn't find it in the aircraft section. Is it the silver line or gold line?[/QUOTE]

    “Best” is very subjective, but I’m very pleased with the shine. Every few months I apply a new coat, and it’s so easy to do. I have my car wrapped with clear protective film and the Supershine works especially well on the film. My car is approaching its 5th birthday but most people think it’s brand new.

    I’m on an airplane as I post this but I’ll provide a link tomorrow.
     
  8. swegman

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    Contacted Alex at JetShineUSA. Permanon Aircraft Supershine has been renamed to Permanon Silver. They also have a new product called Permanon Gold that is supposed to have 6% more shine. Permanon Gold should not be used on the windshield, rather a product called Permanon Glass should be used, which according to my understanding is basically Permanon Silver with a glass cleaning agent added to it.

    JetShineUSA sells a total package that includes a product called JetShine Cleaner in lieu of Extreme Simple Clean. Not sure what the difference is. I emailed Alex to find out.

    I have been told that Extreme Simple Green is the same product as Simple Green HD (available at Home Depot) but without the purple dye. Extreme Simple Green is approved for use on Boeing aircrafts, whereas Simple Green HD has no such certification.
     
  9. swegman

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    It's suggested to clean the car and then clay it before applying the Permanon. What clay and clay lubricant are people here recommending?
     
  10. Struja

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    As a result of some Patent decision, Riccardo Clay wasn't available in the USA for a long time but us Canadians had access to it.

    If you are using a traditional clay bar, it's the best I've ever used.

    Riccardo Yellow Detailing Clay - Mild
     
  11. swegman

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    Heard back from JustShineUSA that their JustShine Cleaner is only available in their pre-packaged kits and consists of Extreme Simple Clean with some dish soap.

    For the people that use Extreme Simple Clean to wash their cars, what concentration of Extrene Simple Clean to (distilled) water do you use?

    Thanks
     
  12. swegman

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    Thanks for the recommendation. Checked the link you provided but it unfortunately is listed as out of stock.
     
  13. Struja

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    I am not sure where you are located but it is available here... Riccardo Mild Yellow Detailing Clay (5oz)
     
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    What do folks use to wash their cars with after applying the Permanon? Has anyone used the ONR products (wash, sealant, etc) in conjunction with the Permanon? Thanks!
     
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    I use Chemical Guys Mr. Pink soap and follow up with a maintenance coat of Permanon Silver. My Midnight Silver gleams. Love it.
     
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