you should know 90% of tesla owners never use AP.Handful complaints vs almost million cars sold last year is nothing to worry about. Judge by your own experience.
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you should know 90% of tesla owners never use AP.Handful complaints vs almost million cars sold last year is nothing to worry about. Judge by your own experience.
Thanks for the great statistics lolyou should know 90% of tesla owners never use AP.
Please show your data. I find it hard to believe that many Tesla drivers don't use cruise control (auto pilot) Sounds like an Elon statistic. Just like he said that no one used the lumbar support in the front passenger seat.you should know 90% of tesla owners never use AP.
If this is so repeatable, you can consider recording it and file a complaint to NHTSA. Tesla will fix it when forced to.Yes this is true. In my case it is a very consistent phantom braking event on non-divided highway. It's only trucks bigger & taller than pickup trucks that always cause it and if I am not following anyone the only way to not have any hard braking or slow downs is to anticipate the large truck coming and gently press the accelerator until it passes by. This eliminates the issue but should I not be on the accelerator when the truck is about to pass me then every time BAM phantom braking. I should get this on video because it is so consistent. How could Tesla not correct this?
Handful complaints vs almost million cars sold last year is nothing to worry about. Judge by your own experience.
If anyone - not traveling alone - has ever experienced AP+PB … that number will dwindle to .5% (die hard Tesla fans in that last slot). I wish Tesla improves the consistency and does not tamper with UI/button-less interaction. I don’t want the fart mode - just leave top level stuff untouched (and apparently they know the usage like with removing “lumbar support”, those things like driver profile switch at the top and v11 “fiasco”). Do they have less things to solve than to focus on this totally dumb UI improvement (v11).you should know 90% of tesla owners never use AP.
Not much improvement. Only worked well on interstate and divided highway with a vehicle in front of me to follow.I calibrated my cameras today on a 2021 (November Delivery) Model Y LR vision only without FSD currently running 2022.4.5 on a two lane road. Headed out on a 350 mile trip tomorrow. Will travel on a mix of highway types (2-Lane Hwy, 4-Lane Hwy, Divided 4-Lane Hwy and some Interstate). Plan to use TACC and TACC with Autosteer except when entering small towns along the way. Will let you know how this trip goes with regards to phantom braking when large vehicles approach from the opposite direction.
The amount of people that report phantom breaking issues online is absolutely overwhelming. Please don't downplay this issueWould only recommend not believing everything you read on a forum. Omitting the dozen or so that continue beating the fear drum of the millions of owners it’s a bit over inflated. Have not had any issues personally like many that don’t post here.
I send 20-30 phantom brake bug reports to Tesla on my commute each day. My Tesla technician said its the only way to get things resolved and get recalls at Tesla. Techs are powerless because technically Vision camera is still in beta mode and they are still waiting for repair orders.
Yup two lane roads 70 out of 100 mile commute 5 days a week. Day and night cars and no cars oncoming. Much worse at night.It must be different road conditions. I've used AP on the highway for hundreds of miles... never ever seen a single phantom braking event.
Could this be a single-lane highway related gremlin?
If this is so repeatable, you can consider recording it and file a complaint to NHTSA. Tesla will fix it when forced to.
Actually, and I read this on the Internet so absolutely gospel, use of AP and use of the lumbar support clearly exhibits close correlation. So the logical conclusion is that both can be eliminated without affecting too many owners yet reducing manufacturing costs significantly. There, did I get that right?Please show your data. I find it hard to believe that many Tesla drivers don't use cruise control (auto pilot) Sounds like an Elon statistic. Just like he said that no one used the lumbar support in the front passenger seat.
I send 20-30 phantom brake bug reports to Tesla on my commute each day. My Tesla technician said its the only way to get things resolved and get recalls at Tesla. Techs are powerless because technically Vision camera is still in beta mode and they are still waiting for repair orders.
You have no idea what fraction of Tesla drivers are reporting phantom braking. It's certainly not "overwhelming", else everyone's Tesla's would be up on blocks. Here's my constructive suggestions. First, do the two button reboot of the car. Second, recalibrate your cameras. If you are still having issues report the problem to NHTSA. They have a few hundred reports regarding phantom braking from over one million Tesla's on the road in the US. It could be either a design flaw or more likely a run of vehicles that have a manufacturing gaffe that's not readily apparent to the casual observer.The amount of people that report phantom breaking issues online is absolutely overwhelming. Please don't downplay this issue
As of November 28, 2018, 1billion miles had been driven by AutopilotThanks for the great statistics lol
Let's be real. How many people even KNOW they can report these things to NHTSA? Many people may not even know what they experienced. In my previous cars that had adaptive cruise I experience so few events it wasn't even worth looking into. I would bet that in the first 2 weeks of ownership of my Y last year, I had more PB event than the previous 10 years of all the different cars I had with adaptive cruise control.You have no idea what fraction of Tesla drivers are reporting phantom braking. It's certainly not "overwhelming", else everyone's Tesla's would be up on blocks. Here's my constructive suggestions. First, do the two button reboot of the car. Second, recalibrate your cameras. If you are still having issues report the problem to NHTSA. They have a few hundred reports regarding phantom braking from over one million Tesla's on the road in the US. It could be either a design flaw or more likely a run of vehicles that have a manufacturing gaffe that's not readily apparent to the casual observer.
I totally agree. I'm not a Tesla hater, but sometimes you need to tell someone a screw needs to get tightened. This isn't something they can't fix. Other car manufacturers have figured it out.Let's be real. How many people even KNOW they can report these things to NHTSA? Many people may not even know what they experienced. In my previous cars that had adaptive cruise I experience so few events it wasn't even worth looking into. I would bet that in the first 2 weeks of ownership of my Y last year, I had more PB event than the previous 10 years of all the different cars I had with adaptive cruise control.
On average I rent 50-80 cars a year from a variety of manufacturers, models and trim levels. I could look at the last 5-10 years of car rentals and PB events and it still wouldn't add up to the first 2 weeks of my Y last year. This includes cars rented all over North America, Europe, Middle East and Russia. The Y still had the most PB events.
If more people knew where they could complain, I am sure they would do it. Unfortunately many people don't have a lot of faith in gov't so they might know what to do but think the gov't won't do anything anyway.
I'd bet though all it would take is something like a "60 minutes" episode on how bad TACC is and the PR debacle resulting from that would get Elon's attention in a hurry.
Phantom Braking almost assuredly can't be fixed with a single, simple software update. I've seen false-positives described mostly as a world-modelling problem in the AV space and it's like playing whack-a-mole -- as more objects are labelled and detected to expand functionality, more false-positives will be created.I totally agree. I'm not a Tesla hater, but sometimes you need to tell someone a screw needs to get tightened. This isn't something they can't fix. Other car manufacturers have figured it out.
i've had many cars with L2 autonomy (lane & distance keeping), one as early as 2010. The Tesla has by far been the best at keeping its lane, but it's "longitudinal" control has something to be desired.
My MY has radar and has never been affected by oncoming traffic, but on occasion it has been affected by misinterpreting something in a neighboring lane is moving over. that is directly related to the cameras. Even though I could count the number of times it's happened on my hands and toes, since it's literally never happened in any of the cars I've previously owned, it's worth complaining about
I truly hope this lights a fire under them, it's something that can undoubtedly be fixed with a software update