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I'm having a little buyer's remorse for getting FSD. I don't use it because it is so buggy. I enjoy driving the car. I really don't need FSD.
95% of my drives I don't get PB. I noticed that it seems to happen when going up hills (it only slows down) or making right curves with another vehicle on the opposite lane. (All of these happen on two lane roads)
On highways I have very little issues with PB.
I've been watching a ton of those FSD beta videos, too, and have yet to see a PB event in any of them. One of the guys did actually state that he's been in the program since it was first released and has yet to have a PB event with the beta.So I have been watching a few beta testers FSD footage on Youtube as of last night, just recently it seems there isn't much if any phantom braking. I have actually seen no phantom braking scanning through videos of 21020.44.15.3 and 21020.44.15.4. FSD has obviously come a long way from just a couple of months ago, so I am hopeful it will fix general AP as well.
Buy something else. The car has too many bugs and is borderline unfit for purpose. Fast in a straight line though.On the cusp of getting a new car, and there is so much about the Tesla Model 3 that I love. The one thing I'm worried about is phantom braking during TACC (not talking steering assist, nor FSD). I've been doing a little digging... OK a lot of digging, and it is clear that with each software update something like phantom braking may change dramatically. What I have seen is in July 2020 there was a big update where it was more of an issue. I gather that it has gotten better since then, so I do not want to be worried about issues that are going away or do not apply to me (for instance TelsaBjorn is great on his phantom braking reporting, but I personally don't need to worry about narrow lanes and big trucks on small roads in Norway).
As it is exceptionally hard to get a test drive where I live I need help... can a few posters give me their current take on it per the following... and maybe throw in what sort of town/city/state/country you drive in if you don't mind sharing:
1. TACC and phantom braking on interstate style highways in late 2020.
2. TACC and phantom braking on the way to work. And have you gotten a consistent false positive/phantom brake so you know the one or two spots to watch out for? Does this change with each update?
3. The state of phantom braking over the course of your ownership of a Tesla.
4. Does turning off AEB change anything currently? From February 2020 there is a Youtube video where someone turned off Automatic Emergency Braking and it didn't actually turn that feature off. Guessing that was a temp bug.
5. Would you say staying on the conservative software updates actually avoids major mood swings of AP or is it still hit or miss?
6. Does phantom braking happen more or less if you have more distance or less distance from the car in front of you?
What would be ideal for a buyer like myself is the ability to engage TACC such that it only worries about the car you are following and ignores everything else. That option would be perfect for 90% of my car-assisted driving.
We bought our 2020 M3 LR in September. Most of our driving is done on rural roads with speed limits no higher than 50mph. When we do go on the interstate, we have never experienced phantom braking, even while going under overpasses. But it's another matter on the rural roads. The car tends to get confused and hit the brakes only occasionally, but it's always while going around a sweeping curve with a car coming in the other direction. There is one stretch of road we often drive, with a sweeping curve, and another road that merges into it on the outside of that curve. If there is a car traveling toward us around that curve, and a car waiting to enter from the other road, we almost always experience some phantom braking. It's gotten to the point where I now take the car out of TACC before approaching that stretch of road. Our previous car was a 2017 Volvo S60. We never had a phantom braking issue with that car on any kind of road when we were using it's Adaptive Cruise Control. Perhaps Tesla is just being overly cautious, but I think that TACC does need some improving.On the cusp of getting a new car, and there is so much about the Tesla Model 3 that I love. The one thing I'm worried about is phantom braking during TACC (not talking steering assist, nor FSD). I've been doing a little digging... OK a lot of digging, and it is clear that with each software update something like phantom braking may change dramatically. What I have seen is in July 2020 there was a big update where it was more of an issue. I gather that it has gotten better since then, so I do not want to be worried about issues that are going away or do not apply to me (for instance TelsaBjorn is great on his phantom braking reporting, but I personally don't need to worry about narrow lanes and big trucks on small roads in Norway).
As it is exceptionally hard to get a test drive where I live I need help... can a few posters give me their current take on it per the following... and maybe throw in what sort of town/city/state/country you drive in if you don't mind sharing:
1. TACC and phantom braking on interstate style highways in late 2020.
2. TACC and phantom braking on the way to work. And have you gotten a consistent false positive/phantom brake so you know the one or two spots to watch out for? Does this change with each update?
3. The state of phantom braking over the course of your ownership of a Tesla.
4. Does turning off AEB change anything currently? From February 2020 there is a Youtube video where someone turned off Automatic Emergency Braking and it didn't actually turn that feature off. Guessing that was a temp bug.
5. Would you say staying on the conservative software updates actually avoids major mood swings of AP or is it still hit or miss?
6. Does phantom braking happen more or less if you have more distance or less distance from the car in front of you?
What would be ideal for a buyer like myself is the ability to engage TACC such that it only worries about the car you are following and ignores everything else. That option would be perfect for 90% of my car-assisted driving.