I mean... This comes as no surprise but glad it's now out in the open.
Wide open.
Plug-in hybrids are a 'wolf in sheep's clothing'
Wide open.
Plug-in hybrids are a 'wolf in sheep's clothing'
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We’ve had an Outlander for 3 years. It gets charged and used most days just to take the the dogs out. Most of it’s driving is done on battery only
pretty much every company car driver I know that has had a BMW330e or Outlander has never charged the battery. That number runs into the hundreds of vehicle units only related to what I've seen - and I am just a single person in the ocean of company car / fleet drivers
pretty much every company car driver I know that has had a BMW330e or Outlander has never charged the battery. That number runs into the hundreds of vehicle units only related to what I've seen - and I am just a single person in the ocean of company car / fleet drivers
We’ve had an Outlander for 3 years. It gets charged and used most days just to take the the dogs out. Most of it’s driving is done on battery only
It’s just started nagging for 15 litres of fresh fuel which it does every 3 months. We can only get 5 litres in at the moment.
Average mpg over nearly 17000 miles is 130mpg including a pre-Tesla holiday that our Ioniq wouldn’t have coped with.
Current quarter is 223mpg.
As it’s used effectively, I’m quite happy that ours isn’t the wolf. As a petrol car, it only does 35mpg in that respect it can be a gas guzzler.
Since it’s just a dog taxi, it would be hard to justify a full EV to take it’s place.
It was pretty obvious that the dealership hadn't ever bothered to plug it in.
If the dealership didn't bother to plug it in, then they clearly don't understand the logic behind EVs either which makes me think, I'm not touching your brand!
pretty much every company car driver I know that has had a BMW330e or Outlander has never charged the battery. That number runs into the hundreds of vehicle units only related to what I've seen - and I am just a single person in the ocean of company car / fleet drivers
BEV BIK rates are better than PHEV but PHEV are still generally less than half ICE. So still a big incentiveRe. tax breaks, I think the government have recognised the problem and already started to level the playing field when they removed plug in car grant from PHEVs (or at least they effectively did by increasing the minimum electric-only range to de-scope pretty much every PHEV being built). Company car BIK rates are already dramatically more attractive for BEV vs PHEV, let's hope the government keeps it this way, and pushes PHEV in the direction of ICE vehicles. I think it's right to continue to support charger installation grants for all EVs, it makes it easier to make the full BEV step later as well as encouraging charging regularly.
A PHEV *is* an improvement on an ICE at the end of the day when it comes to air quality, especially in urban areas, even if CO2 on motorways leaves a lot to be desired.
Manufacturers have some questions to answer as well; one of the things I found surprising when shopping for my PHEV a couple of years ago is that some PHEVs have to run the engine to give cabin heating, which just doesn't make any sense! Sure it is more complex to properly engineer a hybrid electrical+coolant system in the first place and this is where more realistic testing regimes for CO2 would benefit everyone.
My second car is usually fiesta size. Are there even any PHEV in that class? Other half is a liability in her mini. I dred to think what would happen if I got her an Outlander. I'd have to park the M3 in another postcode for starters!Sure, they shouldn't be getting tax breaks, but I wonder what all these old 20 mile EVs will do to the 2nd hand market. They _should_ have the range to do many 2nd car journies exclusively on electric - so might still serve a purpose when they move into the hands of people with tighter financial pressures.
Sadly that may not be enough justification for their existence. if you are not representative of the average ownerThere are some proper sweeping statements on this thread
I had a BMW 330e for 2 years prior to my Tesla, always charged it up when I got home, and only ever charged it 'in the wild' at Tesco on the 7kw Podpoint (as long as plenty were free and I wasn't blocking a BEV) knowing full well at a 3.6kw max charge rate plugging it in and paying to charge it would be stupid and pointless.
Served me very well and it was a very nice car to drive. My wife has ordered a Merc A250e Saloon which comes next month as a step into alternate fuelled vehicles, that too will get charged every night and maxed out on electric only driving to save money.
Not every PHEV driver is a total idiot, its more to do with education of the driver.