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But see that's the issue. I have terrible range (450-800 Wh/mi) on short 5 mile trips and people say it's too short, then I have terrible range on longer trips (450 Wh/mi for 120 miles averaging 68 mph) and people say it's too long.
This feels like Goldilocks.
I think we can see from your wh/mi that you drive in quite a spirited manner.Impressive, right? Thankfully my other car is at least is fun to drive.
Yes, you will always pay the listed price at superchargers. Why would it be cheaper because the charge rate was slower than you wanted?Evidently a lifetime average of 441 Wh/mi is to be expected and being charged full supercharger rate for 66kW per hour average charge rate is fine too.
Now I know.
I guess after hearing many from the Tesla side make fun of the Taycan's 175 mile EPA estimated range I hoped my Tesla would be more in the 200-250 range given the EPA projects 315 for my exact model. Lesson learned.
I think we can see from your wh/mi that you drive in quite a spirited manner.
Yes, you will always pay the listed price at superchargers. Why would it be cheaper because the charge rate was slower than you wanted?
In such a case, something seems off indeed. Your tires are inflated... Do you have a roof rack? Towing a trailer? otherwise either your brakes are dragging or maybe you are in serious need of an alignment.Bro I’m babying this car hard to try and get the range up. You don’t need to believe me. I can show you screenshots of driving 7 miles, averaging 31 mph and topping out at 67 mph. Wh/mi was 455.
Is that spirited to you?
I am still waiting for an answer from the OP about the "21 inch tires". As in, are you on factory shoes (rims / tires) or did you buy aftermarket and if you did "theres your problem right there". 21 inch rims with tires that have high rolling resistance would absolutely show those type of numbers.
I am "assuming" that the 21 inch tires was a typo, but if not, then that answers all the questions, frankly (and if the OP did put on 21 inch tires, yes, it can make that much of a difference).
Sorry, missed that one. Typo. Car is stock.
Blame it on the Winter blend of electricity. It will get better with Summer blend.
OPs car is likely heating the battery the entire time he is driving. Our Mach-E driven in similar fashion in Chicago is getting terrible "range" but we expected it. My wife's commute is 5mi each way. The mach-e essentially is heating the cabin and battery the entire commute both ways. We charge with 120vac and have not had any issues getting a full charge and then some each night. Owning an EV with out a place to charge is a strong no go for me.
Range will be much improved in the warmer months for sure. I also find all the California drivers comparing their stats to OPs car that is in Chicago comical. Our average temp over the last month and a half is below freezing. I also agree OP was uneducated about how inefficient an EV would be in his commute usage scenario. Also hopefully OP replaced those summer tires with at least some all seasons!
Are you using the max regen braking ?Bro I’m babying this car hard to try and get the range up. You don’t need to believe me. I can show you screenshots of driving 7 miles, averaging 31 mph and topping out at 67 mph. Wh/mi was 455.
Is that spirited to you?
Today's EV do fine with continuous highway driving. I have done two cross country trips in my M3P, roughly 7k on each trip. Car worked great on those trips. Doing another one in June.When I clicked on the thread title I was expecting a rant about panel gaps, UI issues, bad paint, etc so not exactly the rant I expected. I do feel this is a little bit on the buyer for not doing enough research as today's EV's aren't ideal for continuous highway driving because continuous aerodynamic drag with no braking means the battery pack is steadily being drained as opposed to city driving where regenerative braking recycles energy. You probably have to take a little responsibility here, that said I'm not sure why numerous posters felt the need to thumbs down your post.
Not sure why you are having such trouble with range. I live in the Midwest and drive 140 miles a day for work and have plenty of range at the end of the day even when very cold.I picked a new Model 3 Performance in December. I wanted a car for normal city driving and the occasional road trip a few hours away. My other car is a sportscar that is deathly allergic to any temperature below 50 degrees so I thought this would be the perfect addition. I live in a high rise with a garage that while not being heated, typically only goes down to about 40 degrees at the coldest.
I live in the Midwest where it can get down to the teens so I expected some range loss in cold weather, but the real world range I'm seeing is nowhere near reasonable. And this cold weather the following data is in was 45 degrees Fahrenheit.
For example, a 80 minute drive on the highway, never exceeding 80 mph used up about 51 kWh, for a Wh/mi of 518.
I then charged for an hour and preconditioned, only to make it 120 miles, averaging 68 mph, with a Wh/mi of nearly 460.
When I complained I was told "this is a city car, not a roadtrip car", so now I rent cars for my drives anywhere outside of 120 miles and drive it around the city. I still have never seen a full charge make it 130 miles without scrambling for a supercharger.
My usage while baby'ing the throttle with it in chill mode still ranges between 393 at the lowest and 1352 Wh/mi at the highest, with the only times it's under 600 Wh/mi is when it's preconditioned. I've also stopped using the seat and steering wheel warmers and keep the climate below 67 degrees on low to try and save energy.
I'm also not saving on gas, not even accounting for the wasted time it takes to charge vs filling up a tank. I charged 22 kWh yesterday (on a supercharger), which took 20 minutes. That's 27% of my range and based on historical data that should go about 40 miles. It cost $9, which is the equivalent to about 2.3 gallons of unleaded and I can tell you 17 mpg is below average for me in my other car.
Everyone I've talked to says that a total range of about 150 miles is the absolute best I can expect when it's below 45 degrees, and when I've called Tesla for support they've stated the same. And they said driving it a few times a week around the city I should expect around 75 miles from a full charge because the battery needs to get to operating temp. lol. Imagine an ICE car saying the best range you can expect is 75 miles.
So now I have a new Tesla that is useless for road trips and useless around the city.
Okay rambling rant over. Anyone want to buy this amazing car?