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Pilot Sport A/S 3+ on OEM 19s...anyone?

RoBoRaT

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How's ride comfort between 255/40/19 and 255/35/19? Does 255/40/19 fit fine without any rubbing for offset 19x9+28 wheels?

One week into having 255/40/19 Continental DWS06 on 19x8.5 +35 offset rims on to LR AWD Model 3 - so far no rubbing. Definitely softer on bumps vs 235/35/20s on 20x8.5 that it replaced.

I don't have experience with 255/35/19 tires.

+28 pushes the tire outboard by 7 mm, with same diameter tire, it should clear the suspension arm. I'm not savvy on this subject, but I think the 9 inch wide rims will fit just fine since 255 mm (~10 inch) tires already fit with about 6 mm clearance from the suspension arm.

See pics below of new Conti DWS06 (10/32nds full thread depth) clearing the front suspension arm.

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Murattukaalai

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One week into having 255/40/19 Continental DWS06 on 19x8.5 +35 offset rims on to LR AWD Model 3 - so far no rubbing. Definitely softer on bumps vs 235/35/20s on 20x8.5 that it replaced.

I don't have experience with 255/35/19 tires.

+28 pushes the tire outboard by 7 mm, with same diameter tire, it should clear the suspension arm. I'm not savvy on this subject, but I think the 9 inch wide rims will fit just fine since 255 mm (~10 inch) tires already fit with about 6 mm clearance from the suspension arm.

See pics below of new Conti DWS06 (10/32nds full thread depth) clearing the front suspension arm.

255/40/19 on 19x8.5 +35View attachment 498409 View attachment 498410 View attachment 498411 View attachment 498412

I saw a post in different forum where it rubbed the side of control arm not top. Do you have side image of this wheel/tire/fender gap?

Thanks
 

RoBoRaT

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I saw a post in different forum where it rubbed the side of control arm not top. Do you have side image of this wheel/tire/fender gap?

Thanks

Side profile. Stock springs, not lowered.
Don't have rubbing with 19x8.5 +35, so no picture of side of control arm.
May rub with > +35 offset.

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One week into having 255/40/19 Continental DWS06 on 19x8.5 +35 offset rims on to LR AWD Model 3 - so far no rubbing. Definitely softer on bumps vs 235/35/20s on 20x8.5 that it replaced.

I don't have experience with 255/35/19 tires.

+28 pushes the tire outboard by 7 mm, with same diameter tire, it should clear the suspension arm. I'm not savvy on this subject, but I think the 9 inch wide rims will fit just fine since 255 mm (~10 inch) tires already fit with about 6 mm clearance from the suspension arm.

See pics below of new Conti DWS06 (10/32nds full thread depth) clearing the front suspension arm.

255/40/19 on 19x8.5 +35View attachment 498409 View attachment 498410 View attachment 498411 View attachment 498412
I definitely love the look of the wider tires. Any information on how this affected Wh/mile?\

TireRack did a comparison test between the Michelin AS3+, the Conti DWS, and the Pirelli P Zero A/S Plus:
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=216
 
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RoBoRaT

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I definitely love the look of the wider tires. Any information on how this affected Wh/mile?\

Worse than 235/35/20 Michelin PS 4S on 20x8.5 Sportline TST.

See below pics.

20×8.5 TSportline TST; Michelin PS4S (Nov/Dec mileage)

19x8.5 TSportline TST; Conti DWS06 255/40/19 (1Jan to today)

Same driving routine, 160 mile commute in SoCal.
Those are mostly freeway 70-80 mph, with the usual rush hour traffic in the PM.

One posted that they have better Wh/mile after breaking in the DWS06s. Not sure much more mileage till I see improvement on mine.

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RoBoRaT

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Ahhhhh… Is that an OEM feature of CA-delivery Tesla’s?

Haha..These HOV stickers are ugly and will leave goo in the paint if you just stuck them direct to the car. So, I made a way to have them on during the week and off any day I'm not using the HOV lanes.
 
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JasTheAce

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I had the Michelin A/S 3+ on a previous car, and it was pretty underwhelming. They have an amazing feel in dry/wet/cold weather, but were pretty much trash in light snow and wore very fast.

For starters, the tread depth to start with was 8.8mm instead of 10mm despite being listed on their website as 10mm. They were 275/35/19 rear, 245/40/19 front on a heavier car (4700lbs). The rears were replaced twice due to road hazard, but in both cases they were at about 5mm remaining after 6000 miles. You'll be really, really lucky to get anywhere near the rated mileage on these, and that wasn't even spinning the tires or anything.

I think part of the issue is they weren't XL load rated so the car ate them pretty quickly.

I would do the DWS06
 

shs1

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Also consider the PureContact LS. They are very highly rated GT all-seasons

I have been using the PureContact LS on my Model 3 and am very pleased with them. I believe I was the first on the forums to try the A/S 3 on my Model S and have gone through several sets of A/S 3s, and the + version, at this point. The A/S 3s were great for my air suspension Model S as they just made the handling a bit more crisp. With my Jan 2018 Model 3 however, I was reluctant to try a non conforming size tire on my OEM 19" wheels, and tried the PureContact LS based on the various reviews. Wow, was both my impression and that of my wife. The PureContact LSs really made for a much more comfortable smooth ride without sacrificing much handling. They also had an impressive tread wear rating and are LLR. Right now I have my snows on the Model 3, but am looking forward to getting back to the much nicer riding quieter LSs in the spring.
 

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