Pininfarina EV

[malcolm]

Via Autobloggreen:-

New EV coming from Bolloré/Pininfarina partnership - AutoblogGreen

Press release from Pininfarina:

Pininfarina | Press Releases

 

[tonybelding]

Only 80 MPH top speed? Otherwise the specs sound pretty reminiscent of the (limited) info we've heard on WhiteStar.

I noticed it says "four seats" rather than four doors. So they could be doing a 2+2.

I wonder about the batteries they are using, what their energy density is.

 

[vfx]

Amazing that Pininfarina a car Designer that Designs cars would make an announcemnet without showing a Design...

I've owned 5 different cars from their studios and apprecialted many more so I look forward to what they come up with.

 

[TEG]

Amazing that Pininfarina a car Designer that Designs cars would make an announcemnet without showing a Design...

We might be able to thank Tesla for causing such a "stir" in the industry that so many established companies have felt compelled to suddenly jump into this space (even if they didn't have a product already underway).

 

[malcolm]

I wonder about the batteries they are using, what their energy density is.

Nothing remarkable at the moment. The bollore website ( :::: Le groupe Bolloré :::: ) mentions a prototype EV made by a company called batscap. It's called the bluecar and it uses the Lithium Metal polymer Technology.

Seems to be 110 Wh/kg

batscap - batterie lithium metal polymere - energy storage

Now how about Tesla selling drivetrains to Pininfarina?

 

[DDB]

Now, what about cost?!

 

[TEG]

Now, what about cost?!

Probably expensive. And probably only for Europe if it even turns into a real product.

 

[malcolm]

Ok so the Fetish was no real competition for the Roadster. Maybe Pininfarina can design a 4 seater to make the Whitestar designers go one better.

There's no-one out there pushing Tesla on BEV systems, and there needs to be.

 

[Cobos]

Actually the French automakers has been making limited number of EV for a long time. The only problem now is bothersome batteries... They require too much maintenance for my liking, and are kind of delicate.
Hopefully Renault or Peugot got something up their sleeve in not too short time.

Cobos

 

[malcolm]

Pininfarina update

Missed this earlier in the month:-

Pininfarina to unveil its electric car this Autumn - AutoblogGreen

 

[TEG]

Pininfarina EV

Pininfarina B0 Electric Car: 153 Mile Range, 80 MPH Top Speed!

 

[Cobos]

Reading through the BBC article someone should tell that Bentley executive about the Tesla Roadster, an all electric car with more than 50 miles range...

As to the Pininfarina EV, I like the design and the specs looks pretty decent. The only thing missing is PRICE which has been conspicously absent from the press release

Cobos

 

[malcolm]

Pininfarina designs an electric car | Car Tech: An automotive blog from CNET - CNET Reviews

Looks very good.

 

[malcolm]

The brochure: http://www.pininfarina.it/repository/Immagini/auto%20elettrica/BO%20pininfarina.pdf

English text is in pale grey!

The website:
Pininfarina | B0 (B Zero)

The stuff about Supercapacitors and Solar panels gives me the jitters. What problem do they solve? Pricey and pointless.

 

[domenick]

The stuff about Supercapacitors and Solar panels gives me the jitters. What problem do they solve? Pricey and pointless.

The ultracapacitors can absorb more energy than can batteries during regenerative braking and can also give back that power to the motor faster. Using them as a buffer allows for a slightly smaller battery pack and extends the life of the battery as well. The Aptera is supposed to have the same kind of set-up and the AFS Trinity demonstrator does as well.

I personally like the solar panel idea a lot. I knoow its more practical to have them on your house and all that but I like the way they lot on the BØ, especially on the fascia. Plus, I only drive 6 miles many days so it's less plugging in for me. Some EVs are using the solar on the roof to help with cabin temperature so that not so much air con is needed in summer and less heat in winter.

 

[malcolm]

I guess I'm fretting about increased complexity and reliability issues in harsh automotive applications. Hope it works out okay.

 

[malcolm]

Pininfarina's Electric B Zero Could Be Design Firm's New Hope

 

[malcolm]

News of delays

Pininfarina delays prototype showing of B0 electric car

After showcasing its rather cute B0 electric car at the Paris Motor Show last year, the company was slated to debut a prototype with a working engine at next week's show in Geneva. Instead, it'll be hosting up that same B0 shell as before, with an undisclosed inside source noting that lingering debt problems were forcing the delay

 

[dpeilow]

Geneva 2009: Pininfarina and Bolloré now accepting orders for all-electric B0

I can't help but think B0 isn't the best choice of name. I can see the jokes on Top Gear already...

 

[stopcrazypp]

Geneva 2009: Pininfarina and Bolloré now accepting orders for all-electric B0

I can't help but think B0 isn't the best choice of name. I can see the jokes on Top Gear already...

It's supposed to be pronounced B-Zero, but I can see why it's a bad name.