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Plaid 21” rear tire woes - factory defect?
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This is for a 2014 P85+ (staggered tires), not a Plaid, and it's the front tires. How do we know if the Pilot Sports are Tesla OEM versions or generic Pilot Sports?
lbowroom
Plaid, white on black, CF, 8/27/21, Track Pack
Daniel454
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Unfortunately many on there are trying to say its just a camber issue due to riding in low all the time (at least they were last time I looked at them).
While I am certain the camber makes it worse and wears a bit quicker, the thin wear line is not symptomatic of just having a camber issue.
Hopefully one day Ill get the N2itive adjustable camber arms I ordered and Ill dial some out but I have no confidence Ill get anywhere near the mileage I should out of these. Maybe Michelin will own up to it, but if not, Ill be switching models / brands as soon as I can.
My rear and front tires have both failed in this manner and they were both Michelins Pilot Sports (the older model, PS2). The rears still had good looking tread on them when it happened. I keep my suspension at the normal height all the time. I'll be replacing with a different brand and I guess I'll eventually find out if the same thing happens.
After seeing the crazy wear on the factory 21's on the car and the lack of supply for new tires, I decided to purchase a used set of 19's with the Pirelli stock tires. I've only put about 3k miles on these so far but the wear seems to be great. No even close to the rapid edge wear I was seeing on the Michelin tires. So this got me thinking, what if I put a set of Pirelli's on the 21' arachnid wheels? Wondering if anyone has tried a different brand to see if the wear pattern stays the same or not. This at a minimum would help to identify where the problem lies. According to tiresize.com a 285/30R21 or 305/30R21 would work just fine. Tire rack currently has the 285/30R21's in stock. Thoughts????
MS Plaid lowered on N2tive links. Starting losing air on the rear left for a bit now. I would put air on the tire (to whatever PSI is OEM) and drop all the way down to 33 PSI consistently. Kinda scary, considering the fact that it could've popped any moment. Getting both rears replaced, and should probably do adjustable camber and toe arms for the rear.
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jimmy_d
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I just had one of my rears fail for this reason. 15k miles and plenty of tread on the whole tire except for the inner edge. Ordered a new set all around. Can keep the old ones if Michelin wants them back.
Likely a good call to keep the tires for a while. Any pictures would be of use, especially if you can include the DOT ID number on the sidewalls.
Hoping Michelin will step up and recall these, and reimburse those that have paid out of pocket.
I just bought new wheels and tires for upcoming Chicago winter and at 10,500 miles on my stock 21” arachnid Michelin tires I’m noticing tire pressure decreasing on rears (but not fronts) and excessive wear on inner part of tires, but it’s not far enough yet to show cords. I’m real interested to learn if Michelin or Tesla is going to pay up to fix this. I’m probably going to order N2itive lowering kit and rear cambers as I’m seeing this is fixing the problem. Also I have the shudder and Tesla techs admit to being able to duplicate the problem, but they claim my half-shafts are fine and the problem is “under investigation” - whatever that means…
So i just swapped my aftermarket 21 inch wheels for the winter 19s on my 2022 plaid. Only drove about 2000 miles so far on the 21 pilot 4s T2. Does it look like I am already starting to see a slight inner wear already?
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Hate to be such a Debbie Downer, but after so many, many visits to "repair" the ALWAYS ON LED lights in the center console of our refresh MS's, I am coming to believe that "under investigation" may just be Tesla-speak for "Thank you for your complaint, but we're not going to fix your car under warranty, or perhaps ever . . . ."
Elon, this is NOT great customer service. At all.
HighPotential
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Classic toe alignment problem. Mine was in spec but toed out. I got replacements and adjusted the toe for slight in. I am tracking wear every thousand miles.
The Model S has quite a bit of toe change under compression, namely toe-out under compression (which is an odd choice for sure). If you spend time driving in the low settings, you'll be more likely to experience this type of wear.
I would choose the height you plan on driving at and have the car aligned at that height with as little toe and camber as possible!
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