Plaid brake issues

[petebrandt]

I want racing recently in my s plaid for the first time, speed ventures, AAA raceway fontana ca. After first lap brakes started to fade and got worse as they heated up, these brakes SUCK, anybody with same issue and anybody who have improved there brakes?
Thanks
Peter

 

[pabla]

To what end though? The Plaid is a drag car not a race car.

I would argue Tesla has finally broken the barrier of a only drag car with the pre refresh models to now a possible track car. Torque vectoring, better cooling and the adaptive suspension enable the new models to handle a track day... sans the brakes of course

 

[WilliamG]

I would argue Tesla has finally broken the barrier of a only drag car with the pre refresh models to now a possible track car. Torque vectoring, better cooling and the adaptive suspension enable the new models to handle a track day... sans the brakes of course

Yeah, it's wild to me for Tesla to boast of the Plaid's Nurburgring prowess, of torque vectoring etc, and then to saddle this car with sub-par brakes.

 

[dds28]

Some of the Plaid cars at the Nurburgring had large ceramic brakes with massive calipers. Too bad Tesla won't put that in the production cars. Slididng calipers in the rear on such a fast car is just unacceptable.

 

[TessP100D]

I would argue Tesla has finally broken the barrier of a only drag car with the pre refresh models to now a possible track car. Torque vectoring, better cooling and the adaptive suspension enable the new models to handle a track day... sans the brakes of course

Race cars are gutted for weight. Highly tunes suspensions, braking and very rigid. The Model S is a beautiful car, but it’s not a race car. Just cause it’s fast in a straight line doesn’t mean it’s a race car. Seriously. Theres a big Difference

 

[maximizese]

Race cars are gutted for weight. Highly tunes suspensions, braking and very rigid. The Model S is a beautiful car, but it’s not a race car. Just cause it’s fast in a straight line doesn’t mean it’s a race car. Seriously. Theres a big Difference

I cringe at the thought of how many folks will figure this out the hard way. It seems like the car is being "marketed" as a race-ready production car. Most folks who track cars put brakes and tires on the top of the list for modifications...but a handful of folks just want to put their stock cars on the track and run. The worst are those who but their cars on the public streets and run.

 

[pabla]

Race cars are gutted for weight. Highly tunes suspensions, braking and very rigid. The Model S is a beautiful car, but it’s not a race car. Just cause it’s fast in a straight line doesn’t mean it’s a race car. Seriously. Theres a big Difference

That's why I said "track car" not a race car. Plenty of other sedans in the same price range that can be taken on the track with no modifications

 

[pabla]

I cringe at the thought of how many folks will figure this out the hard way. It seems like the car is being "marketed" as a race-ready production car. Most folks who track cars put brakes and tires on the top of the list for modifications...but a handful of folks just want to put their stock cars on the track and run. The worst are those who but their cars on the public streets and run.

There are plenty of sedans you can buy for the price of a Plaid that can be taken on a track, and realistically the Plaid just needs some better braking to be tracked. I don't know people keep saying racecar, no one wants to race on a track instead safely push the car to the limits for enjoyment

 

[RB_PB]

For your info is a discussion for preparing a heavy & powerful sedan (Mercedes C63) to the tracks on occasional basis.

To All Who Track Their Car

 

[TessP100D]

For your info is a discussion for preparing a heavy & powerful sedan (Mercedes C63) to the tracks on occasional basis.

To All Who Track Their Car

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.

some people juts needs to find out you shouldn’t touch fire. Oh well.

 

[RB_PB]

We will be shipping the brake pads early next week to fill those back orders.
New orders are being taken with prompt shipment.

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Easy to select and install. An investment that can make your Plaid more safer to drive.

 

[RB_PB]

Plaid Iron Brake upgrade option:
ROTOR, PAD, BRAKE KIT - SELECT VEHICLE - TESLA - PLAID & LR (2021+) - RB Performance Brakes

 

[DukeofURL]

Plaid Iron Brake upgrade option:
ROTOR, PAD, BRAKE KIT - SELECT VEHICLE - TESLA - PLAID & LR (2021+) - RB Performance Brakes

These look nice, but I'm curious what the black surface is on the rotors, surely it will wear off as soon as they're first used, correct?

 

[RB_PB]

Yes, the EDP coating rotor surface will disappear only after a few hard stops, while all the remaining area (including the inner cooling vanes) remain protected against rusting & corrosion.

Below is an installation for Corvette ZR1 CCB conversion to RB iron rotors.

After Installed:

After a few stops:

 

[RB_PB]

What's your wheel size (or plan to have) for tracking?.
Plaid comes standard 19" with 21" option.

Just test fitted 420mm BBK and it comfortably fits under 21" but will not be for "OE" 19", although some aftermarket 19" may.

Wouldn't it be preferable to use 19" than 21" for tracking?

 

[kgoroway]

The template.

The template measuring the correct 233 mm on the long side.

Fitted inside an SV104 19" wheel.

Worst case scenario - clears the wheel weights by about 1.5 mm.

 

[Duke846]

It’s not the brakes people it’s the stability control.
plaid needs track mode like the model 3 performance.
that car does the exact thing when not in track mode.
stability control is way aggressive on Tesla’s. (Using braking when you hardly even notice)

 

[Duke846]

I track my 3 performance all the time and some auto cross.
trust me trackmode will give you 20mim of hard driving on most tracks without amy brake upgrades.

 

[RB_PB]

The template.

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The template measuring the correct 233 mm on the long side.

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Fitted inside an SV104 19" wheel.
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Worst case scenario - clears the wheel weights by about 1.5 mm.
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That's great to know.
Please provide the wheel brand and model for other members' reference. Although I still don't think it can fit OE 19"

 

[Duke846]

That's great to know.
Please provide the wheel brand and model for other members' reference. Although I still doubt that it can fit OE 19"

You don’t need them.
Wait for track mode.
Trust me.

 

[kgoroway]

That's great to know.
Please provide the wheel brand and model for other members' reference. Although I still don't think it can fit OE 19"

It probably wasn't clear, since I buried it in between photos, but "Fitted inside an SV104 19" wheel."

That's Signature Wheels, SV104. (My winter wheels) - I run SV104 in 21s during the summer...wanted to make sure I wouldn't run into issues when swapping wheels.