Plasma Gasification of Trash

[TheTalkingMule]

I've been a bit obsessed with plasma gasification for about 10 years. Never heard anyone give a valid reason it can't work at scale, I think it's just too expensive and tough to execute consistently.

These guys apparently already have a functioning plant in Israel and 10 ready to go across Europe.

‘We will produce carbon-negative green hydrogen from non-recyclable waste at zero or below-zero cost’

Boson Energy says it will offset the expense of producing H2 with the income from its production process' associated revenue streams

www.rechargenews.com

Would be world changing if this technology is finally brought to scale and it's process perfected.

This company is taking a hydrogen production angle to get funding. Genius. The product itself is nearly profitable since is kicks out more electricity than it uses and can be placed in situations where there's high existing dumping fees. Now they have access to EU green bonds because they're positioning it as green hydrogen production.

Hope it works out. Anyone have knowledge of this industry?

 

[petit_bateau]

I have a little knowledge and a great deal of scepticism. A long story. How big a scam is this one ?

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

No deep knowledge, although I'd heard of it in the 2000s.
Very much an "ideal" technology that's not been a commercial success as the theory has been hard to convert to practice.
Lots of projects abandoned. (See the commercialization link.)

Plasma gasification - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[TheTalkingMule]

No deep knowledge, although I'd heard of it in the 2000s.
Very much an "ideal" technology that's not been a commercial success as the theory has been hard to convert to practice.
Lots of projects abandoned. (See the commercialization link.)

Plasma gasification - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah, I know there were a couple in Canada years ago that met with mixed results. My guess is you need a certain uniformity of feedstock, which is hard to execute consistently in the real world.

Found this interesting, from the wiki page ...

The US Navy is employing Plasma Arc Waste Destruction System (PAWDS) on its latest generation Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier. The compact system being used will treat all combustible solid waste generated on board the ship. After having completed factory acceptance testing in Montreal, the system is scheduled to be shipped to the Huntington Ingalls shipyard for installation on the carrier.[31]

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

Yeah, I know there were a couple in Canada years ago that met with mixed results. My guess is you need a certain uniformity of feedstock, which is hard to execute consistently in the real world.

Found this interesting, from the wiki page ...

USS Gerald R. Ford’s (CVN 78) Lesser-Known, Trash Disposal Technology, Plasma Arc Waste De

During independent steaming event (ISE) 7, USS Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) served more than 100,000 meals to the crew and an additional 500 ship riders. The aircraft carrier also processed 42,000 pounds

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Of course, aircraft carriers are military.

The fundamental problem with the current plasma systems is cost. There's also political opposition from environmentalists, who point out that the syngas needs to be purified before burning to avoid toxic emissions, and see it as a potential threat to the 5-Rs messaging.