I took my P85+ in to the SC for a noisy pano roof. The one day job is now on day 5 waiting on new parts. When they realized it would take longer they gave me a loaner vehicle which was a regular P85 that was almost identically optioned with air suspension, 21's etc...When I first started driving it I initially thought it was somehow quicker than mine but I soon realized it just seemed faster because i was feeling less connected to the road and that the car got "out of shape" much easier than mine. Only having experience driving my P85+ and a couple "D" cars i never really realized how different the driving experience is between a regular P85 and the + version. For the lack of a better term I can honestly say i feel "safer" in my car. it took very little time to adjust to the P85 but IMHO for a RWD car with that much power I now believe that the + is a must and worth the extra $s on the used market. I know a lot of people talk about the extra cost of staggered tires but i feel like my car is much more "predictable" and more fun. The difference between the AWD and the RWD cars is completely understandable but the difference between the P85 and the P85+ was unexpected. Am I just used to mine or has anyone else had a similar experience. I am curious about your opinions.