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Police Pull Fords From Service Over Carbon Monoxide Fears

Discussion in 'Cars and Transportation' started by Hotlobstah, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. Hotlobstah

    Hotlobstah Member

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  2. GoTslaGo

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    #2 GoTslaGo, Jul 14, 2017
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    Wow!

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    "Ford has never considered this a safety issue, but I believe it is," said Uustal, who recently reached a settlement with Ford on the case. He said his initial client, a fire fighter from Fort Lauderdale, had used a carbon monoxide detector from his department in his car and found 120 parts per million of the gas. He said other tests he conducted as part of the suit regularly found 30 and 35 ppm. That is above what's considered a safe level for prolonged exposure, said Uustal.

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    (Uustal is a lawyer who sued Ford)

    FYI:

    CO Health Risks - Detect Carbon Monoxide

    Level of CO....Health Effects, and Other Information
    0 PPM..............Normal, fresh air.
    9 PPM..............Maximum recommended indoor CO level (ASHRAE).
    10-24 PPM.......Possible health effects with long-term exposure.
    25 PPM............Max TWA Exposure for 8 hour work-day (ACGIH).
    ...........Pocket CO TWA warning sounds each hour.
    50 PPM.............Maximum permissible exposure in workplace (OSHA).
    ............First Pocket CO ALARM starts (optional, every 20 seconds).
    100 PPM............Slight headache after 1-2 hours.
    125 PPM............Second Pocket CO ALARM starts (every 10 seconds).
    200 PPM............Dizziness, naseau, fagitue, headache after 2-3 hours of exposure.
    400 PPM.............Headache and nausea after 1-2 hours of exposure.
    .............Life threatening in 3 hours.
    .............Third Pocket CO ALARM starts (every 5 seconds).
    800 PPM.............Headache, nausea, and dizziness after 45 minutes; collapse and unconsciousness after 1 hour of exposure.
    ..............Death within 2-3 hours.
    1000 PPM............Loss of consciousness after 1 hour of exposure.
    1600 PPM............Headache, nausea, and dizziness after 20 minutes of exposure.
    ..............Death within 1-2 hours.
    3200 PPM............Headache, nausea, and dizziness after 5-10 minutes; collapse and unconsciousness after 30 minutes of exposure.
    ..............Death within 1 hour.
    6400 PPM............Death within 30 minutes.
    12,800 PPM.........Immediate physiological effects, unconsciousness.
    ..............Death within 1-3 minutes of exposure.
     
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  3. 22522

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    There are a couple of things here, but the only one i would like to comment on is Model Y related.

    Pickup trucks have a separation between the load and the passenger compartment partially to keep CO from the exhaust gasses in the wake from getting to the people.

    This separation is not needed in an all electric vehicle. That means, if a designer wanted to remove the hatch, or have a slide forward roof panel near the cargo opening, an SUV could carry refrigerators upright, just like a pickup truck.

    Full EV enables a lot of unconventional/weird configurations with a lot of utility, because CO in the wake is a non issue.
     
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    Ford fires - if people only knew.
     

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