(split from GM Chevy Volt thread. Link to the online test is in the quote below) Worth noting that the results from that test on one EV forum, can't remember if it was this one or not, put most respondents in the liberal and/or libertarian quadrants.
1) You are not alone as an exception... more of us on the way! 2) Thanx for the link. Interesting outcome for me. Thought I'd be +/+, but instead I'm Left -1.62 / Libertarian -0.21... still pretty close to center!
Good to hear, since I got Economic Left/Right: -6.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.13 Which is between Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama
That's where a lot of us seem to end up. Probably need to spin this off into a political leanings thread or something. (Done!)
Further 'negative' (that seems odd) than that. -6.5, -5.95 for me! I am still the most liberal person I know. :biggrin:
The far far far zealots have moved many leaders and the press to move farther than the normal people who think logically and rationally. Studies show that most people want the same thing they just think there is different ways of achieving it. Most are reasonable and will discuss and compromise. Bob Lutz's recent problems with his own heros really highlight how ridiculous some of it has gotten.
Amen! Most people agree on the goals, and can easily compromise on how to attain them. The problem is, there's no money to be made from compromise, but tons of money to be made from manufacturing conflict. This is the essence of Fox News' appeal and popularity (as well as many in talk radio) and creates for many a false sense that they vehemently disagree with others about things they actually probably don't disagree that much with.
Two observations: (1) On an individual level, these scores are in line for someone from N-O-R-W-A-Y! (tongue & cheek; please take no offense or maybe wear it as a badge of honor) (2) With all these highly negative numbers, my near Center/Left seems to skew me more towards that vast Right wing conspiracy. Maybe these scores need be graded on a curve?
Yeah. I did the political compass test years ago and I'm at something like -8, -8.... really truly out there.
I was very near the lower left corner. That surprised me. I'd have thought I was near the left, but a little above the centerline. I am definitely a leftist, believing that human rights are more important than an unfettered free market, and I take a generally negative attitude toward business, but on the vertical axis, I oppose government interference in private behavior that does not harm others, and strongly support regulation of business. They say they consider the Left-Right line inadequate, but I'd add that even the two-dimensional surface is inadequate, since I support individual rights, but also believe in individual responsibility, such as paying taxes, and I oppose too much freedom for businesses to use their wealth to mislead or to shape laws for their financial benefit. In classifying me as highly libertarian, the graph puts me with people who think they shouldn't have to pay taxes. I hate paying taxes, but I strongly believe it is necessary. I guess this is one more meaningless on-line test.
Almost all of these tests are libertarian propoganda. The conflation between what the tests define libertarian and the behavior of self-defined libertarians is a major problem. One might think you are a libertarian and then wonder why libertarians vote with republicans almost universally.
I had always thought I was really conservative, but my political compass put me at something like 0.03, 1.2, pretty near dead center. Oh well, I'm an opinionated centrist then.
I agree with the basic concept of libertarianism, as I under stand it. Less government, more personal freedom, and responsibility, but I have no faith in the ability of the general public to act rationally when left to their own devices. Too many of us have become little more than petulant children, short sighted and self indulgent.
Economic Left/Right: -3.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.74 I need to print that out and give it to all my friends......:wink:
Economic Left/Right: -6.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.62 I credit the oil companies for beating the unrestrained capitalism out of me, unrealized externalities and tragedy of commons and all. And I don't like the libertarian label anymore, since too many libertarians don't believe in supporting a quality education (but of course, I don't believe quality education means simply throwing money at the unions - evidence-based education, folks!). And no, I don't believe privatizing education will work as there are just too darned many areas of the US that are perfectly happy to wallow in their 'intelligent design' mud pit, and private companies would only be too happy to cater to that. In the end, life is just about never a zero sum game.
The questions are not neutral. I got two pages in and realized that my answers were pretty much directed. It's really difficult to write a non-biased survey, but I feel like the author of this one didn't try very hard. Survey: It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product. Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold. Or: It's great that a portion of society has figured out how to make a living by bottling/branding something as basic as water. Everyone should have the opportunity to own land.