Politics - Quarantine Thread

[_Redshift_]

Try answering the question.

Try asking an intelligent one.

 

[pepperoni]

We are in a recession. Only the Democrats and their left wing media do not want to say it because its voting season. Two quarters of negative growth = recession. Its been that way for years. We have had two negative quarters and so yeah..its a recession.

Ok folks, you heard it here first. @carpendj says we are in a recession so it must be so. Pay no attention to those liberal rags like The Chicago Tribune who said just two days ago that we’re not in a recession yet, that’s just fake news. (And never mind that they brand themselves as an “economically conservative” paper, fake!) And all those economists quoted in the paper? They must be liberal and shills for the Democratic Party, so you can safely ignore them too. Just you wait, @carpendj is going to provide some references from more respectable news sources and experts to back up his bold claim.

 

[RSpanner]

It's called Trump Derangement Syndrome and mostly affects the left.

I would say most leftists and to the middle really consider T be deranged and the country has had enough. Back to the topic...

 

[2101Guy]

I would say most leftists and to the middle really consider T be deranged and the country has had enough. Back to the topic...

Hell, non extreme rights will (secretly) tell you "I REALLY hope he just..goes away soon. Too much baggage. DeSantis much better choice in 2024"

 

[alexgr]

We are in a recession. Only the Democrats and their left wing media do not want to say it because its voting season. Two quarters of negative growth = recession. Its been that way for years. We have had two negative quarters and so yeah..its a recession.

Then this is one of the best recessions in the history so far.

 

[alexgr]

On recession... why does that even matter here? Let's rather talk about who's smarter Trump or Biden.... just kidding...

 

[nate704]

On recession... why does that even matter here? Let's rather talk about who's smarter Trump or Biden.... just kidding...

We, average people, are smarter than the politicians. We just don't have enough money or connection or proper last name.

 

[Dennisis]

We, average people, are smarter than the politicians. We just don't have enough money or connection or proper last name.

Don't forget the desire to be one. For most it's all about power, IMHO.

But aside from keying in on the recession part of the question, it all comes down to the OP clearly judging his circumstances and making the call. None of us can do that for him. I'm of the opinion if he had to ask the answer is no, play it safe until you're comfortable with it.

 

[origingalatic]

Don't forget the desire to be one. For most it's all about power, IMHO.

But aside from keying in on the recession part of the question, it all comes down to the OP clearly judging his circumstances and making the call. None of us can do that for him. I'm of the opinion if he had to ask the answer is no, play it safe until you're comfortable with it.

yea, I agree here. If OP is asking a bunch of strangers, seeking opinions, I would heed that inner voice that's seeking risk avoidance.....

 

[watsongrg]

Those opinions, IMHO, are missing the forest for the trees.

One of the bigger problems with EV charging in North America today is that it's fragmented. You've got Level 1, Level 2, and DC fast charging; and for the latter two, you've got Tesla vs. everybody else. (DC fast charging is really split in three, although CCS and CHAdeMO are usually co-located, and CHAdeMO is a fading standard.) This fragmentation creates a great deal of confusion for new or potential EV buyers and frustration for drivers (especially new drivers), who may find that they can't charge where they'd planned or wanted to charge, or who need to drive further or to a less-desirable location to charge.

If we had one charging standard per speed (I grant that there are technical reasons to differentiate Level 2 and DC fast charging), then this would be much simpler and easier for everybody. Tesla adding CCS cables is a step in the right direction on this score. To non-Tesla owners, that will greatly simplify things. Widespread availability of Tesla's CCS1 adapter (officially sold only in Korea at the moment) or a reciprocal inclusion of Tesla plugs at EVgo, Electrify America, ChargePoint, etc., stations would help in the other direction.

It's also possible that Tesla adding CCS cables will eventually enable Tesla to adopt CCS for Teslas in North America. If most or all Superchargers have CCS cables, then it would be in Tesla's long-term interest to adopt CCS on its cars, since this will mean that they will eventually (after a decade or two) be able to ditch their proprietary connector, saving costs on Superchargers and enabling better interoperability generally. Granted, use of dual cables during that 1- or 2-decade period will increase costs, but if the end result is a single standard in the future, that's a plus, in my view, compared to the alternative of continued fragmentation in the EV charging space. I also know that some people hate CCS and proclaim Tesla's proprietary connector to be superior, and I grant they have a point; but I'd much rather have a world standardized on the more-awkward CCS1 connector than continued fragmentation in the EV charging space. I want to be able to pull over at any highway service plaza in the US and charge my EV, no matter who built it, just as I can fuel any gas-powered car at any service plaza today.

Typical socialist solution. Typical entitlement attitude. Reduce the quality because “it’s not fair and everyone should have some”

If you want the advantages that Tesla offers, buy a Tesla. Don’t ruin what we bought into, which is speed, convenience, proprietary availability.
The 3rd party DC fast chargers and Gubment chargers are crap for a reason

 

[Mockingbird]

Typical socialist solution. Typical entitlement attitude. Reduce the quality because “it’s not fair and everyone should have some”

If you want the advantages that Tesla offers, buy a Tesla. Don’t ruin what we bought into, which is speed, convenience, proprietary availability.
The 3rd party DC fast chargers and Gubment chargers are crap for a reason

If it wasn’t for the “socialist” government, there wouldn’t be BEVs today.

Automakers would make ICEVs forever.

 

[drift]

If it wasn’t for the “socialist” government, there wouldn’t be BEVs today.

Automakers would make ICEVs forever.

Not true. BEVs will prevail for one reason, they are superior to ICE vehicles and consumers will make the choice. This can already be seen in the marketplace. The government had nothing to do with the shift from horse and buggy to ICE.

 

[Mockingbird]

Not true. BEVs will prevail for one reason, they are superior to ICE vehicles and consumers will make the choice. This can already be seen in the marketplace. The government had nothing to do with the shift from horse and buggy to ICE.

There wouldn’t even be BEVs on the market today if it wasn’t for the government.

It’s government regulations that forces automakers to make BEVs.

 

[BigDaddyKevin]

Handicapped spaces. Idiots. In teslas.
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it's called entitlement, something CA folks love lol

 

[betstarship]

So, just to understand the situation a few years back:

While Trump was President of the United States and under the rule of Putin...we had a US-owned social media platform riddled with spies from various countries...all with access to people's personal data?

 

[Daniel in SD]

So, just to understand the situation a few years back:

While Trump was President of the United States and under the rule of Putin...we had a US-owned social media platform riddled with spies from various countries...all with access to people's personal data?

Wait until you learn about TikTok...
Twitter was just hewing to the laws of countries in which it operates.
Frankly I think social media companies need way more government scrutiny of foreign influences.

 

[bkp_duke]

So, just to understand the situation a few years back:

While Trump was President of the United States and under the rule of Putin...we had a US-owned social media platform riddled with spies from various countries...all with access to people's personal data?

Who says it started with Trump?

 

[betstarship]

Who says it started with Trump?

Context: Back when my ex-co-founder and I were talking to companies about a potential acquihire for our startup, we talked to folks at Twitter among other companies.

...maybe you're alluding to the problems with Twitter management not starting with Trump with the leading question. So, I'll go along with that. The place seemed flashy, but also a mess. We were certainly in over our heads at the time, so it's hard to tell if there was abject truth in what people were telling us. There were several other companies that were honest with us about where we were at, Twitter was not one of them. I learned a lot through that process.

 

[MontyFloyd]

GOP once again moving to end capitalism (Reagan spinning in grave)

First it was Corporate Welfare
Then it was imposing billions of dollars in tariff taxes to US people and companies, even on products that cannot be made in US.
And because of the tariffs giving farmers over $25 billion
Now the GOP wants to take over the running of investment funds, imposing Communist style command economy orders to those investment funds.

It is Capital Investment 101 one invests in funds that will bring profit.
There is a relatively new (started 20 years ago) investment sub-strategy that looks at climate related investments, looking at companies and locations that likely will suffer under climate change, resulting in losses.
It is called "Environmental, social and governance investing", a holistic look at trends for sound and safe investing.

The GOP (more like TrumpWing) are now attacking this ESG, forcing state investment firms to invest in companies that have a very risky future, being Coal, Oil, NG, and not invest in growing industries including renewables.

GOP Fury Over ESG Triggers Backlash With Pensions At Risk

The finance industry is arguing that Republican are putting the financial security of U.S. savers in serious jeopardy.

www.fa-mag.com

What’s more, a study by Enersection, a Houston-based data visualization firm, shows that Republican districts are well ahead of their Democratic counterparts in targeting clean-energy projects. And a data analysis conducted by Bloomberg Opinion and Enersection of where renewable-energy technology gets deployed in the US shows the vast majority is in Republican-led congressional districts.

The notion that ESG is a left-wing conspiracy infiltrating US corporate life also is hard to square with the fact that 69% of major companies in the country are run by executives who identify as Republicans, according to University of Oxford’s Said Business School professor Robert Eccles, who cited a paper by professors Vyacheslav Fos of Boston College, Elisabeth Kempf of Harvard Business School, and Margarita Tsoutsoura of Washington University in St. Louis.

I remember a time when GOP was all business and would aggressively pursue new business. Now its more like a communist party.

 

[whisperingshad]

The current admin is doing WAY more Communistic and Socialist things