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[POLL] How much will the 75kWh upgrade cost?

Discussion in 'Model 3' started by insaneoctane, Jun 8, 2017.

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Speculate... How much will the 75kWh upgrade cost?

  1. < $5,000

    73 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Between $5,000 and $7,500

    127 vote(s)
    49.8%
  3. Between $7,501 and $10,000

    43 vote(s)
    16.9%
  4. > $10,000

    12 vote(s)
    4.7%
  1. PaulJB

    PaulJB Member

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    Assuming your talking about driving performance only, that is not necessarily true. The bigger battery will enable better driving performance only if the power output from the battery is the limiting factor. Using the Model S for example, that is the case for dual motor vehicle, where you see jumps in performance for various battery configurations on the dual motor car. However, if you look at 0-60 times for the S60, S70, and S85, they generally hover around 5.4 - 5.5 sec, right? In this case, I presume its mostly the single large rear motor that is the limiting factor, and a larger battery won't change that. (Now, larger battery will improve charging performance, which I also find valuable.)

    To relate back to your BMW analogy, I expect the larger battery plus dual motor to be about a $10K upgrade total (ex. $6.5K for battery and $3.5K for AWD). That probably gets the Model 3 0-60s into the mid-upper 4 second range.
     
  2. JBare

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    Where can I sign right now as well? All I "need" is EAP and would strongly prefer a larger battery but am hoping to get both around that $42K number.....
     
  3. smak

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    If the small battery gets 240+, I may skip the larger battery. Although I'd like the 0-60 increase, that's a lot of money for something I'd need maybe twice a year, and need is relative, since I'd just charge earlier or an extra time on a 250+ mile trip.
     
  4. Booga

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    For me, the decision will still be based on range rather than a quicker 0-60. If they charge too much for the range upgrade, I'll have to pass on the purchase. I know that I want nearly 300 miles of range or more, because I won't have access to nightly charging. I'm hopeful I can get by with charging my car 1-2 times per week.
     
  5. JJJandak

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    I thought of you this for while now. I prefer to look at package cost as fraction cost of whole car. Model X 75D->100D is 17k more for 25kWh. Model S 75D->100D is 23k more (but with air suspension bundeled). So if we assume Model S 25kWh upgrade cost 17k of 74.5k => 1/4.3824th of price of whole car. I expect that we can take similar approach with Model 3 => 35000/4.3824=7987$. I think that with GF1 efficiency we can get somewhere around that price for this mass market vehicle.
    Big question is if they force some premium features with bigger battery. 75RWD should come first, AWH and smaller battery later. I am concerned that they discontinue bigger battery RWD soon after, so we would be forced to buy AWH, like it was with S and X..
     
  6. eternal

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    People have some impression this "mass market" car is to compete against a mass market honda civic or toyota corolla. It just isn't. Its mass market is really meant to compete against the BMW 3 series, Audi A4, etc. Each time you bump the engine specs, you pay the 10K increase roughly. Why wouldn't the same be likely here? If its only 3-4k like some here predict, why would anyone ever want the smaller underperforming battery.
     
  7. insaneoctane

    insaneoctane Active Member

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    I don't know what the upgrade will cost, but I think a significant amount of the reservations are for people who stretched to $35K. They require the federal tax credit to make it financially viable. Those people would not choose the upgrade.
     
  8. jsrawa

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    The difference between a 75D and a 100D MS 0 to 60 is 0.1 sec according to the design studio. I don't think you can really say that the pack size difference will "unleash" better performance. $10k is almost 30% of the base price of the entire vehicle!
     
  9. SureValla

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    sadly since they are making the larger battery car first so those who choose the 35k option are less likely to get the tax credit. However, those who choose the upgrade are likely to get the money back in the tax credit.
     
  10. jgillispie

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    A lot of people are missing the performance/cost curve. Price moves up exponentially the higher up the line you go.
     

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