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Poll: How to fix the service issues

What should Elon do to improve Tesla service?

  • Quality of front personnel plus technicians - better recruitment / training

  • Improved computer systems including helpdesk ticket visibility

  • Take humans out of the equation - log the fault yourself

  • More middle managers & change the service organisation structure

  • More front end personnel plus technicians required

  • More / bigger service centres required

  • Increase spares availability

  • Improve communications process (not people)

  • More and/or specialised Rangers can solve many of the issues

  • Elon needs to state that improvements are required and spend time personally

  • Tesla need to analyse common faults and look at solving them issue by issue

  • Have one person monitor your process - accountable front end person


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I have always had a great service experiences since Feb 2013 and I have had a lot of service visits since the early cars were basically advanced beta test cars.

Bigger and more service centers are going to definitely be needed and I think Tesla knows and is working on it. St. Louis has a bigger location now. I still checked that off as a need.

I am happy because he communication has been really good here in my area. Hopefully they don't start slipping when Model 3s start rolling in next year in mas quantity for the yearly service. I think this is the issue in the really busy areas. People aren't even getting realistic updates or information. If people were getting proper updates the person doing the updating would realize bit falling thru the cracks.

Biggest one is improve the damn ticket system. I should be able to see everything going on when I log onto the website.... heck there should be a "service" tab on the APP that is kept updated. So I can check on where my car is in the line and everything. I should be able to schedule any appointment right on the APP.
 
While we as customers see symptoms, it's impossible from the outside to identify most important factors that contribute to the situation, so to suggest specific solutions is somewhat naive.
Hence, none of the options resonate with me, I'd like to see one that basically say 'Make it a priority'.
 
It may well be a problem with no internal solution. Just as Apple holds on to the design/software/intellectual property side of things while farming out building hardware, Tesla might find it advantageous to let someone who has a better handle on parts and service take that job over. It could be combined with another service they are currently sucking at: selling used Teslas. In other words, Tesla stores for new car sales, and (shudder) "dealers" for service and used car sales.
A way for the white belt and maroon pants set to join the EV revolution.
Conventional dealerships farm out body work to people who know how to do body work. Perhaps Tesla should farm out service to people who know how (and are set up) to do service?
Robin
 
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It sounds as if folks may believe that they don't have a service problem and that they believe life is good. As well as I can remember from Elon posts, there is definitely an understanding of issues. Fixing something like this isn't an easy thing. Especially when the company was on the brink a few months ago, priorities become important. Now that the US rush is over, and profitability may exist, I highly suspect that plans are being put into place to solve some of the issues.

Making service better a simple thing. You've got to create training programs, you have to find people to hire (which is VERY hard), you have to get your supply chain the ability to create the spare parts.

You just can't roll out a completely working machine selling this many cars overnight, or even a year.
 
Top results above 27% grouped in themes:

Process/IT
  • Improved computer systems including helpdesk ticket visibility
  • Improve communications process (not people)
  • Have one person monitor your process - accountable front end person
These should all be implemented together and is the main thrust from the vote.

Standard stuff
  • Increase spares availability
  • More / bigger service centres required
These will already be happening but clearly need to be taken seriously given that Tesla is expanding so quickly.

Rangers
  • More and/or specialised Rangers can solve many of the issues
There are many positive stories on Rangers. They offer a great way to plug the gaps as they can scaled so easily. Great marketing tool as well as customer convenience.
 
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From main thread following Q4 CC - Service No1 priority:
My thoughts on Elon's response to the first "retail investor/owner" question about Tesla Service.
  • I was hoping he was gonna nail it. He did not nail it. I fear he still doesn't get it.
  • At least, what he announced reflects a continued lack of understanding about service issues.
  • As I said last time, it's all about customer/company communication (CCC).
  • Today Elon simply focused on optimizing the ability to request a service appointment.
  • This is what tech startups call "low hanging fruit" -- in my opinion, in this case, fruit that's already on the ground.
  • This is a baby step. Not even touching the core problems.
  • And to reiterate, the core problems are managing expectations and full accountability.
  • You don't achieve superb CCC without those two ingredients in the company culture.
If Elon had announced the following:
  • The app tracks every step of your service experience, showing where car is now, status of it, who your point of contact is now, how to reach them with a tap of screen, when car will be ready, etc, then that would be something. I hope that's coming.
  • The app lets you contact Tesla, track your communications, lets you know when you're supposed to hear back, updates you with notifications if there are delays, etc.
  • On the back-end (within the corporation): system tracks all inbound and outbound communications with customer, every issue tracked, all due dates highlighted, name of employee highlighted (who owns this customer at every step of the process), who the supervisor is if things start slipping, supervisor gets alerted the second stuff slips, etc. In other words, tools to help staff manage expectations and accountability.
  • Until I see that kind of thing, Tesla is not nailing it.
  • In fact, what they're introducing now with the "tap a button in the app, schedule service appointment" may wind up increasing in-flow of service requests to the service centers. This risks new bottlenecks and more problems not less. They're potentially opening floodgates for inbound requests but Elon offered no information on how systems (and management!) are being improved in-house so that they can handle a larger influx of service requests.
  • I still don't think Elon gets it.
  • I still don't see superb CCC being in the company DNA or culture.
  • I am still hoping, but I am still waiting.
The Fast Food Analogy
You know when you go into a fast food restaurant? They all have the same systems: you see these touchscreen computer monitors with pending orders. As the orders get "stale" as the seconds tick by, the background color goes from green to RED. That means the customer is waiting a long time. This is a simple way of managing customer expectations that the food really is fast, and that they can pump through many orders without a hitch. Employees and management constantly seeing the status of all pending customer orders and they can act accordingly.

Tesla needs something like that in-house, on huge scale, and then simple UI/UX reflected in the app (and mirrored in My Tesla part of website) and if they did all that, and Elon hired/fired based on management nailing new objectives for CCC success, we'd be somewhere.

Like always, Tesla, I'm happy to help. Ping me.
 
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Considering Tesla service has had the exact same set of issues since the very beginning, the answer here is a combination of everything and more of it... Tesla needs to massively expand it's service center footprint, and I mean 2 years ago... It's pathetic how long some markets have to wait and even more pathetic how many markets aren't even served to begin with.

Tesla isn't going to fix the service issues, if they were serious about doing that, they'd have done it already. I genuinely believe that Elon is to the point now where he just wants to produce as many cars to either force Apple (or someone else) to buy them and/or force the big boys to play ball and go all EV and then Tesla will go away on it's own... I am serious, I don't think for one second Elon has any real desire to follow through on anything that doesn't serve either of those two goals...

Jeff
 
Top results above 27% grouped in themes:

Process/IT
  • Improved computer systems including helpdesk ticket visibility
  • Improve communications process (not people)
  • Have one person monitor your process - accountable front end person
These should all be implemented together and is the main thrust from the vote.
Huh! I just voted (before reading this and voted for two of these three (I would have voted for all three but I wanted to vote for More Service Centers too). Guess my views are consensus now. I was ranting about this several years ago, though. ;-)

Standard stuff
  • Increase spares availability
  • More / bigger service centres required
These will already be happening but clearly need to be taken seriously given that Tesla is expanding so quickly.
Anecdotes, including mine, say that spares availability is fixed.

Still no service center in Syracuse NY though!
 
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My 2012 Model S was rear ended a couple of months ago. Nothing major but the bumper cover and maybe a couple of clips need to be replaced. When Tesla sent their email out a month or so ago about doing this stuff in-house, I created a service ticket. Started the process either from a desktop or iPad. They then started reaching out to me via text which I am fine with and actually prefer.

I know this process is going to take a while due to the fact I have a bumper with no sensors and I am OK with that. What I don’t like, as noted above, is the communication process. I would be fine with a weekly text saying, “we are still working on this” but hearing nothing for longer then a week is not cool.
 
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TESLA,S comunication with sevice centres is appaling you cant phone, i now have them comunicating via text message i have been trying to book an appointment for a month now if they werent a hundred miles away i would take it there park it outside the front door lock it and leave with the key. i love the car but if this does not improve drasticly i will NOT be buying another one when will they ever learn front desk is everything to a customer looking for support ....

on the other hand you can still call sales funny that.