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why is Model Y a huge disaster?The Model Y is a huge disaster. It will not sell well.
They don't need to "switch" it over in its entirety. They can build both vehicles on the same line.I don’t think it’s fake but I think it’s based on production capacity. They have no where to build it.
But, if Model 3 sales nose dive, I would put very good money on Tesla switching over to Model Y production at Fremont. It’s basically the same car.... just 10% bigger and with higher margins. It would actually kind of be stupid for Tesla to continue prioritizing Model 3 production over Model Y production.
I would have chose the Y and I have never owned an suv, only sedans and pickups, I see the Y as a sedan with a hatch but maybe that is just me?The overlap in customers is smaller than you seem to think. Normal people don't generally cross-shop send and crossovers. They know what they want and they look at vehicles that fit that criteria. Crossovers, SUVs, and trucks accounted for the top six vehicles sold in the US in 2018 — there's a large customer base that wouldn't even consider the Model 3. Now with the Model Y there is a Tesla in their price and style brackets.
The Model Y is a huge disaster. It will not sell well.
It has a sedan look thanks to the sloping nose and rear, but height-wise it is definitely in crossover territory. Kind of in the same world, stature-wise, as a Volvo V90 Cross Country.I would have chose the Y and I have never owned an suv, only sedans and pickups, I see the Y as a sedan with a hatch but maybe that is just me?
It has a sedan look thanks to the sloping nose and rear, but height-wise it is definitely in crossover territory. Kind of in the same world, stature-wise, as a Volvo V90 Cross Country.
It has a lot in common with the Model 3 (75% of parts!) but all indications are that while the chassis may be the same the frame on top is different.So is the Y just an M3 with a taller roof/hatch assembly welded on at some point in the assembly line, or not?
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interesting.My father in law put money down for a Y (he's never had a Tesla). We stopped by the Tesla store yesterday while in the mall for lunch and he ended up buying a 3. I don't think that would have happened without the attention from the Y. I'm sure he isn't the only one in this scenario.
Not just a taller roof, the doors, side panels on all 4 sides, the trunk and frunk are all taller too.So is the Y just an M3 with a taller roof/hatch assembly welded on at some point in the assembly line, or not?
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I think Tesla should focus on building different sizes of SUV. Sedan as a category is not selling well in America and Canada.IMO, MY is the car they should be launching now in the UK, not M3.
I can see people here putting off a M3 purchase because, with a hatchback and higher roofllne, the MY is a more practical car. Defintely a better family car, better taxi, better getting-stuff-to-the-dump car, etc.
The main thing stopping me from postponing my M3 is the fact that the MY is unlikely to be here until 2021/22.
Yes, for the US. But the US auto market isn't necessarily representative of rest of world.I think Tesla should focus on building different sizes of SUV. Sedan as a category is not selling well in America and Canada.
The Model Y is a huge disaster. It will not sell well.
Interesting link from the Wall street journal. Anyone know the exact difference between SUV and crossover in the table? These two terms seem to be used as the same thing in the general public.Yes, for the US. But the US auto market isn't necessarily representative of rest of world.
Here are US auto sales: December 2018 – The Best-Selling Vehicles In America – Every Vehicle Ranked | GCBC. Unfortunately, WSJ stopped updating this once GM stopped reporting monthly US sales figures: Auto Sales - Markets Data Center - WSJ.com.
Here's Japan, in comparison (as an example): 2018 (Full Year) Japan: Best-Selling Car Models and Mini Cars - Car Sales Statistics. Nissan Note is aka the Versa Note in the US. Toyota Aqua is aka Prius c in the US.
I agree as well. I think Model Y is a very compelling offering for EV. I just wish that it is in production sooner.View attachment 387617
I fully disagree! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The Y is going to be a huge hit despite all the negativity on here. Here's my take.
1) A car's success is not all about it's LOOKS! Being a beauty queen does not make a car. Plain Clean Simplicity is better sometimes. It will grow on you, you’ll see... give it time!
2) Once on the road, people will get to see what it really has to offer.
3) Ample room, versatility, and improved dependability which naturally comes from platform sharing.
4) Like a Hot-Hatch of yesteryear, the Y will be a stealthy speed demon in P form ready to blow away the competition for under $60K.
5) It WILL be among the best, if not the very best handling Crossover on the market (which will improve its safety maneuvering rating).
6) If Crash-Tests prove to be on par with other Tesla's or better, couples with young children will flock to the stores or the net to buy one.
7) Ingress and Egress, (especially for older adults and seniors) is said to be better than the 3.
8) The 300+ mile range is by far unbeatable for a Crossover in this price bracket.
9) The Y is destined to be a HUGE hit in Europe where the Y is custom tailored to that market.
10) Aftermarket vendors are already drooling over it.
Above is a PS’d Black Model Performance Y that’s lowered, added tints, and larger 21” wheels/tires. It’s a stealthy Hot Looking Crossover Hatch (when configured right) that can seat 7 with a 300 mile range and a 0-60 time of 3.5 sec... that’s awsome man! (Tap on pix to enlarge it.)