Porsche Taycan Vs Tesla Model S: Review, Road Test, Race, Charging

[bhzmark]

Dragy include 1 foot rollout in 1/4 mile times!
How much does the -0.8% slope make? I guess someone should calculate that.
Anyway, we'll know soon enough!

And the vbox video I just posted.

Bizarre how you think a .6 second difference is explained by rollout instead of partially admitted and further fully proven TopGear incompetence.

@delusionbot do your home work and watch this:

 

[Daniel in SD]

Bizarre how you think a .6 second difference is explained by rollout instead of partially admitted and further fully proven TopGear incompetence.

I think 0.3 seconds are explained by rollout and 0.3 seconds are explained by something else (traction, uphill slope, battery temp, charge level, phase of the moon, car to car variation, who knows). I don't understand the launch control argument since Top Gear got the same 0-60 times that other people get. Does launch control help above 60mph?

 

[bhzmark]

Not using launch control limits the peak power , and they probably didnt preheat the battery, and all that combined with misrepresenting old data as new shows that they incompetent and unreliable.

I think 0.3 seconds are explained by rollout and 0.3 seconds are explained by something else (traction, uphill slope, battery temp, charge level, phase of the moon, car to car variation, who knows). I don't understand the launch control argument since Top Gear got the same 0-60 times that other people get. Does launch control help above 60mph?

 

[FactsBot]

Not using launch control limits the peak power , and they probably didnt preheat the battery, and all that combined with misrepresenting old data as new shows that they incompetent and unreliable.

Also Dragy originally did not use 1 foot rollout nonsense at all. Only recently made it available as an option but the default, and all the published times, including the one I posted, are WITHOUT the 1 foot rollout adjustment.

Make yourself a favor and follow the instructions in post #103.

Additionally, not sure if you realized but Racerx22b == unplggdd

 

[bhzmark]

Make yourself a favor and follow the instructions in post #103.

Additionally, not sure if you realized but Racerx22b == unplggdd

Do yourself a favor and watch the Dragtimes video. Dragy and vbox and timeslips are more reliable.

Even better get a dragy and go to the dragstrip and get some real experience.

 

[bhzmark]

There is however one red flag, how come they have a slower run with the Raven than with the P100D.

Exactly. Because they did launch control steps for the Porsche but not for the Tesla Raven

 

[juanmedina]

I think 0.3 seconds are explained by rollout and 0.3 seconds are explained by something else (traction, uphill slope, battery temp, charge level, phase of the moon, car to car variation, who knows). I don't understand the launch control argument since Top Gear got the same 0-60 times that other people get. Does launch control help above 60mph?

0.2 by not using launch mode.

 

[Daniel in SD]

0.2 by not using launch mode.

Ok. That does seem like a possibility. I was confused by their publishing the old numbers where the 0-60 numbers matched.
Top Gear got 2.83s and RacerX22b got 2.73s with launch control and 2.86s without.
So 10.70s (RacerX 1/4 mile time with 1ft rollout) + 0.14s (launch control) + 0.3s rollout + 0.09s (fat UK driver? uphill?) = 11.23s (Top Gear time). Mystery solved?
I'm sticking with my prediction that the Taycan Turbo S will do 10.3s on an actual drag strip.

 

[juanmedina]

Ok. That does seem like a possibility. I was confused by their publishing the old numbers where the 0-60 numbers matched.
Top Gear got 2.83s and RacerX22b got 2.73s with launch control and 2.86s without.
So 10.70s (RacerX 1/4 mile time with 1ft rollout) + 0.14s (launch control) + 0.3s rollout + 0.09s (fat UK driver? uphill?) = 11.23s (Top Gear time). Mystery solved?
I'm sticking with my prediction that the Taycan Turbo S will do 10.3s on an actual drag strip.

As fast as the GT2 RS

 

[Racerx22b]

Additionally, not sure if you realized but Racerx22b == unplggdd

This is a correct statement.

 

[bhzmark]

This is a correct statement.

Great. Can you put your car in range mode, don't use launch control, don't lower the suspension, don't let the battery completely preheat and see what results you get so that you can try to replicate TopGear's incompetence?

 

[Racerx22b]

Great. Can you put your car in range mode, don't use launch control, don't lower the suspension, don't let the battery completely preheat and see what results you get so that you can try to replicate TopGear's incompetence?

Yes. Gimme a day or two.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Yes. Gimme a day or two.

Can you turn off 1 foot rollout for 1/4 mile times in Dragy?

 

[Valore]

Top Gear don't know how to operate the Tesla expert says.
Tesla officially winnered against the Taycan. Tesla victory.

 

[Racerx22b]

Can you turn off 1 foot rollout for 1/4 mile times in Dragy?

Not sure if that is possible. If it is, I will.

 

[Vm.one]

It's proven tg lied and scripted the show to have Porsche come out front. Both the editor and Jack rix twitter has gone dark. They don't know how to respond now that they have been exposed.

Glad the Tesla community is smart and we caught their lie.

Follow me on Twitter vm.one (Check out Saving Earth (@vm_one1): Saving Earth (@vm_one1) | Twitter)

 

[serendipitous]

How do you know that version software includes the power boost? I am not doubting your claim to be clear. I don't follow the version iterations closely so I don't know what versions do what until I see the summary on the screen. I do know that my Raven Model S is not on the version though.

That was me, and it was on 2019.36.1. Happened to get the update the morning I was going to the strip anyway. No times from before the update, unfortunately - I just got the car.

 

[Racerx22b]

Great. Can you put your car in range mode, don't use launch control, don't lower the suspension, don't let the battery completely preheat and see what results you get so that you can try to replicate TopGear's incompetence?

Can you turn off 1 foot rollout for 1/4 mile times in Dragy?

So I ran the test as requested...

81% SOC (TG claims they were at 85%)
Range Mode On
Driving mode = Ludicrous (No Ludicrous + or Ludicrous ++ Easter Egg)
No Launch Mode
Conditions were standard asphalt immediately following rain but road was dry
I couldn't figure out how to turn off the rollout for 1/4 mile

Screen Shots from Dragy and Vid from Dragy and vid from GoPro on dash all below.

Clearly - Top Gear is a bunch of idiots. They claim the best they got was 11.2xx when testing against the Taycan. I don't care how many math formulas you post up the results are the results. Is the Taycan a quicker car? That remains to be seen. But the numbers posted by TG are clearly flawed somehow.

 

[FactsBot]

So I ran the test as requested...

81% SOC (TG claims they were at 85%)
Range Mode On
Driving mode = Ludicrous (No Ludicrous + or Ludicrous ++ Easter Egg)
No Launch Mode
Conditions were standard asphalt immediately following rain but road was dry
I couldn't figure out how to turn off the rollout for 1/4 mile

Screen Shots from Dragy and Vid from Dragy and vid from GoPro on dash all below.

Clearly - Top Gear is a bunch of idiots. They claim the best they got was 11.2xx when testing against the Taycan. I don't care how many math formulas you post up the results are the results. Is the Taycan a quicker car? That remains to be seen. But the numbers posted by TG are clearly flawed somehow.

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Thanks. This matches their Raven time. Both the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile with the +0.3s.

 

[Daniel in SD]

Thanks. This matches their Raven time. Both the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile with the +0.3s.

It's still 0.1s off since the 1 foot rollout is 0.21s (see the 0-60 with and without rollout).