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I'm not going to make things up to make you think I'm being balanced . The X I have is great. No one is saying not to post. At least I wasn't. I just didn't see a need for a database yet.
That's really disappointing.
Frankly, it's incredibly important that early VIN folks report issues to Tesla so they can be corrected and fixed for future production. I don't see a convincing argument for those issues to be posted here.
or those of us on the list for an X wanting to see how the issues are sorted to make a more educated decision on when to jump into the fray.
I'm not going to make things up to make you think I'm being balanced . The X I have is great. No one is saying not to post. At least I wasn't. I just didn't see a need for a database yet.
For the life of me I can not understand these shiny black seat backs. What was wrong with the mat pebble finish seat backs on the MS? Hopefully they change this soon or I guess I will have to have the seat backs wrapped.And for those who absolute perfection in your Model X, watch out for the pets paws and the children's shoes! Those ultra shiny smooth seatbacks and clean wheel wells surfaces look wonderful now. I hope you can keep them looking great!
For the life of me I can not understand these shiny black seat backs. What was wrong with the mat pebble finish seat backs on the MS? Hopefully they change this soon or I guess I will have to have the seat backs wrapped.
Great idea to wrap them. My detail specialist wants to wrap my rear headrests as he sees scratches already in the area that is hidden when they are up. I told him all the material will look fine for years as I don't transport those who damage the interior.I'm definitely planning to wrap them if they're delivered in the current form. That said, I was also 'definitely' getting a center console for my MS, which I subsequently decided would completely ruin my vehicle. Maybe I'll love ogling myself in those glossy seat backs.
And so not surprising coming from the likes of that guy.
Agreed. I've never been able to wrap my brain around people wanting to shout negativity from the roof top (Internet), particularly when considering the situation and context. I don't buy the whole 'for the benefit of others'. You can benefit others simply by contacting the source, who has always been open to hearing how they can improve their products and services (particularly when presented to them in a reasonable manner).
I am disappointed by the common feeling that we must somehow bury anything that could be an issue with the X for now. All it accomplishes is that websites who are clearly biased against Tesla will own the conversation on issues with the car. It will also give them fresh ammunition to paint information from this forum as 'selective' and 'biased'. And on top of that it's a disservice towards fellow owners to be who might have a similar issue but without being able to get accurate help and information.
Those who just wish to enjoy the car can simply ignore this thread until they are ready to take off the rose tinted glasses.
Absolutely!!! As a Production reservation with a VIN in the low 300s, I definitely want to hear about what's going wrong with the early Signatures. And then I want to hear that Tesla has resolved every single problem (which is likely) by the time Tesla starts building the Production models. This will allow me to know what potential issues I should be looking for at delivery, and being mentally prepared for certain disappointments that we'll just have to accept (like poor visibility out of the rear window, no folding 2nd-row seats, no AM radio band, etc.). I'm sorry if stock shorts take advantage of these reports, or if current owners start to weep because they have to read about problems fellow owners are having. Too bad. Get over it. It's very helpful information, and many of us want to know it.
Thanks MarkZ for your honest opinion. Newbies like me only depend on the info from TMC. I will not have a chance to see in person a Model x in the near future, my nearest service centre is located 1160km and the nearest Tesla store 300km. I know more about X than the sales person in the Tesla store, thanks to this forum. I chose Model X as a family vehicle over an ICE vehicle. Sugar coated opinions and concealing facts have never been helpful, especially for long term outcome for Tesla. Better to be safe than sorry and posting issues right now is the right thing to do as these problems can be nipped in the bud. Will these problems influence me to bail out ….no not at all.Great idea to wrap them. My detail specialist wants to wrap my rear headrests as he sees scratches already in the area that is hidden when they are up. I told him all the material will look fine for years as I don't transport those who damage the interior.
I will be updating the original post that has the list until the edit turns off. I visited Tesla SC and the detail specialists today and there is good news to report on both fronts. One of the reasons for this thread should not be to list a problem and drop it, but rather get the feedback and mention corrective activity. What Tesla Motors would offer to do in the regard of paint repair is NOT what should be done! If communication lines stay open and no one panics, you learn a lot about what is normal and what is not. The results will surprise you, they will surprise Tesla Motors, because when you hire the 3rd party specialists who do the aftermarket work on the Model S and next week on my Model X, you learn what even the Tesla SC doesn't know, because they either don't do it or the newness of the vehicle is unique to them. The specialists work with all makes, so they know what is normal with the materials that Tesla Motors is now using with Model X.
Consult Tesla for the mechanical issues but consult with the detail specialists for the interior and exterior care and expert advice. Enjoy the edits and the surprises and Tunein again soon.
I like how people are telling other people that they shouldn't be worried about initial quality problems with their $100k cars because apparently Tesla's reputation is more important. Should this forum not be a free exchange, good and bad?I love the outrage over nothing. It's so cute.
I like how people are telling other people that they shouldn't be worried about initial quality problems with their $100k cars because apparently Tesla's reputation is more important.
I like how people are telling other people that they shouldn't be worried about initial quality problems with their $100k cars because apparently Tesla's reputation is more important. Should this forum not be a free exchange, good and bad?