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Powertrain and Coolant System Problem

Discussion in 'Roadster: Technical' started by Mitrovic, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. Mitrovic

    Mitrovic Member

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    Today I wanted to start my Tesla, it was idle for about 24 hours.
    When I turned it on, I got a new sound from the car and two msgs came out on the screen:

    "Coolant System Problem Service required" and
    " Powertrain Problem Service required "

    Anyone any idea?

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  2. Lloyd

    Lloyd Active Member

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    Check the coolant level??
     
  3. Mitrovic

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    Coolant level is o.k.
     
  4. Talkredius

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    sorry, but now you are a member of the PEM fan problem club:scared:

    see under

    PEM, motor gets too hot -- fans failed

    slaps with your hand under the left rear might start the fan again.

    I'm just writing a small Howto exchange the fan
     
  5. Eberhard

    Eberhard #421 Model S #S32

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    error-msg #1144?
     
  6. Talkredius

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    pictures say ID 1147 + ID 267
    may be I'm wrong with my first assumption, I thought I got this message too while charging, but I'm not sure about it.
     
  7. Mitrovic

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    Nope

    error msg is those pictures I posted, so I guess error 1447 and 276 ?

    So I guess its may be different then the PEM fan problem?

    The car was garaged for 24 hours at a temperature between 5 and 10 C

    What do you think?
     
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    my suggestion : start charging , after 10 ... 30 sec. you might get a ID1144 error if you have a PEM fan problem. If not, wait and see, if the front fans will start.
    And set the gsm to on and let the service manager look into that.
     
  9. Mitrovic

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    The car is fully charged.
    The service manager (?) told me not to drive the car, and he will look at my error msgs. But he was not able to help me yet.
    Is there anywhere a list of the error msgs?

    Unfortunetelly ( sometimes allthough it is great ), there is no GSM where I have the car.
     
  10. scott451

    scott451 KWH-PWR#1349Sprt,S Sig#96

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    Pictures say 1447+267

    Debug screen shows:
    ID 1447 is "HVAC: Evaporator Outlet over temp". It's a warning becuase it is orange.
    ID 267 is "BSM: Positive contactor/economizer stuck low" fault because it is red. -- I've seen this during charging. It usually clears itself
     
  11. Doug_G

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    I've occasionally had an error message pop up, but it appeared to be just a random one-time glitch. Here's a procedure that appears to clear things:

    Turn off the key.
    Open the charge port.
    Close the charge port.
    Turn on the key.
    Drive.
     
  12. Mitrovic

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    It is 276 not 267

    How is it possible that it gets me that warning, allthough the car was cold?
     
  13. Mitrovic

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    The technician will pick up the car today, and I will get it back on saturday.

    They are not 100% sure. They suspect something with the heating
     
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    Surprise when we wanted to load my car on the trailer yesterday: The charging light was red, but there was no possibility to "put a drive in".
    If we tried to press the D or N or R button, all we got was press the brake pedal, and the button did go red.

    O. K. so we put the car in the tow mode and pushed it out. But we had to put it backwards on the trailer, because of the limited clearance of the car. But you can not push 1400 Kg on a trailer. The trailer has a winch, but Tesla has no hook on the back!
    So we had to position the trailer on a little hill, so we could roll the car on the trailer.
     
  15. Mitrovic

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    I just had a phone talk with the friendly Tesla technician and the car is o.k. again!

    They changed the 400V controler
     
  16. doug

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    Sounds like quite an ordeal. Thanks for the updates. Let us know if you get any more details.
     
  17. Mitrovic

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    Drives perfectly again!
     
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    Good to hear that your car is "on the road again"!
     
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    ****! Went for a short drive and on the first hard accelerate this error popped up. For me it's "only" the 1447, the coolant system problem.
    Mitrovic, can you give me some more details on that?
     
  20. Mitrovic

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    Sorry Dragon, I see your msg. only now! I guess you have resolved it by now!

    But now, after work, the car was garaged and not pluged in, I opened the car and it greeted me with cold air and an error msg. It is again:
    "Coolant System Problem Service required" ID is: 1447.

    The car drives without any problem, but it allways blows cold air into the cabin. Even when the key is out!

    What is going on now? Anyone had a similar experience?

    The car is now garaged and plugged in with storage mode. Waiting for an answer from the Tesla Ranger who is looking into the problem.
     

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