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This is a very long post, so please bare with me and read the entire post prior to commenting.

I picked up MY Tesla on Saturday 5/1, drove immediately to a highly reviewed PPF and Wrap Shop in Orlando, FL. Left the car there over the weekend for them to begin working on a full front PPF, lower side rocker panels, full rear bumper and partial lift gate, and front window tints. Monday afternoon I received a text, along with a beautiful photo of the completed vehicle, and was advised I could pick it up today, Tuesday afternoon. On our way to the shop, I received a call telling me not to come in until tomorrow, without telling me why. The service technician than tells me, when I asked why, that the owner would call me shortly. Needles to say, I had a very bad feeling about what was about to transpire. The owner calls me a few minutes later, telling me she hit a wall taking the car out of the shop and damaged the passenger side rear quarter panel. Of course I was astounded and absolutely livid, even though she said she would take care of everything 1000%. The car has 30 miles on it, already going to a body shop.

I told her we were coming anyway to inspect the damage and to discuss what she was going to do to remedy the situation. The damage wasn’t too bad and they immediately had a dent repair guy out that day to get rid of the dent and I drove the car to their recommended body shop to repair the very slight paint damage and the slight residual damage where the panel was repaired by the dent specialist. The PPF shop was very embarrassed and profusely apologetic, and they agreed to refund the entire cost of all the film, plus the tinting of the front windows and also agreed to pay my May lease payment on my Subaru Outback, which I now have to keep another week due to the car being in the body shop. The body shop is also providing me with an iron clad lifetime warranty on the repair; they’ve been in business 45 years and have a sterling reputation with nothing but 5 star reviews. So all is good, the slight accident is saving me $3200 including the May payment to Subaru. They also agreed to put a clear film on the inside of the windshield which repels 98% of surface heat, adding another $265 to the total installation which becomes a free $3500 job.

So here’s the issue I’m really concerned about. How in the world did the car hit a wall, without sounding any alarms or warnings and without braking before impact. According to the owner, and I am taking her at her word because of how fair they’ve reacted, the car never issued any warning and never sounded any sort of alarm. How could the allegedly safest car in the world, with all the safety features and safety awards, not have issued an audible warning or applied any emergency brakes? This would have never happened in my 202Outback; the alarms would have sounded loud enough to wake the dead and the emergency brakes would have locked prior to any kind of low speed impact.

I’m really concerned that the safety record of Tesla is not all it’s advertised claimed to be.

Any comments or ideas, please?
 
I've tried to take very good care of my cars over the years and would get frustrated taking it in for routine maintenance only to find oil carelessly spilled in the engine compartment, dirt and grease on the steering wheel or seats, scratches on the driver's side door and other stuff. Seems like anytime you let someone else take possession of your car there is going to be opportunity for stuff to happen out of your control.

As @DanDi58 mentioned, the car will let you hit a garage wall or something else if you want it.
 
I agree with the previous 2 posts. Sugar happens. All the time? Hardly, but it does happen.

Since none of us were witness to the accident, so there's no way to claim anything about how the car should have warned the driver. You're trying to place blame/responsibility w/o all the information, and probably will never have the answer. Your expectations re: Tesla vs. 202 Outback aren't realistic, as there's no was to compare them.

Sorry to hear about this.
 
First sorry for this incident, but honestly you have been very fortunate that the shop is taking care of you like this. You have spared a fair expense and I am sure you will not be able to even see the blemish.

I am curious on the expectation that the car would prevent a low speed (say <5mph) collision like this? I'm also dubious that a Subaru (or any car) would prevent.
 
So here’s the issue I’m really concerned about. How in the world did the car hit a wall, without sounding any alarms or warnings and without braking before impact. According to the owner, and I am taking her at her word because of how fair they’ve reacted, the car never issued any warning and never sounded any sort of alarm. How could the allegedly safest car in the world, with all the safety features and safety awards, not have issued an audible warning or applied any emergency brakes? This would have never happened in my 202Outback; the alarms would have sounded loud enough to wake the dead and the emergency brakes would have locked prior to any kind of low speed impact.

The beeps for proximity can be turned off, but they will still appear on the screen. If they were turned on, frankly, I have my doubts about the story that they had no beeps. I've found them to be generally sensitive. So sensitive in fact, that I've become accustomed to ignoring them in tight spaces. This can be catastrophic (don't ask me how I know). Warning fatigue is real, and this may actually have been a contributing factor if they are used to driving cars that overly warn. I'm not aware of any auto-braking for this kind of scenario, and tbh I wouldn't really want it. It'd add unpredictability when maneuvering in spaces where inches count, and that isn't a desirable thing.

Oh, there are also some blind spots, especially near the ground. Depending upon the shape of the obstacle this could be it, rather than overlooked warnings. Also, the car has a "service mode". I have no idea if this has any affect on the proximity warnings or if your PPF shop used it.
 
what i would be more concerned with is if this went through insurance and if it will show up on CarFax...this will create a diminished value case which usually is around d10-15% of the car.
I think the body shop will only report it this way if the damage exceeds some threshold. It sounds like he might actually be ok in this case. It certainly doesn't sound severe enough to warrant any kind of diminished value.
 
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Wow... You're worried about safety of your car... Was it self-driving? :rolleyes:

1) Your Tesla goes 0-60 in how many seconds? People aren't used to that sort of acceleration and wind up wrecking.
2) You have to be blind and deaf to not see and hear the ultrasonic sensors around the entire car when creeping slowly near obstacles. This only helps when creeping slowly and not when speeding.
3) Your car has lots of cameras and it'll show you the rear and side views when backing-up. The driver needs to understand those cameras are showing them obstacles and to not run into them.


This is a very long post, so please bare with me and read the entire post prior to commenting.

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I’m really concerned that the safety record of Tesla is not all it’s advertised claimed to be.

Any comments or ideas, please?
 
Sounds like the shop is really taking care of you. I would be pretty pissed but accidents happen. The main job of the safety systems are to prevent major accidents and in my experience, these kind of low speed collisions are frequently missed by the driver assistance features.
 
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Do you even own a Tesla? :rolleyes:

A Tesla will tell you the approx distance to obstacles around it.
A Tesla will beep at you and be very loud and persistent when it's near something.
The driver needs to purposely ignore all of these signs to run into something. A Tesla won't prevent a driver from bumper parking.

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So here’s the issue I’m really concerned about. How in the world did the car hit a wall, without sounding any alarms or warnings and without braking before impact. According to the owner, and I am taking her at her word because of how fair they’ve reacted, the car never issued any warning and never sounded any sort of alarm. How could the allegedly safest car in the world, with all the safety features and safety awards, not have issued an audible warning or applied any emergency brakes? This would have never happened in my 202Outback; the alarms would have sounded loud enough to wake the dead and the emergency brakes would have locked prior to any kind of low speed impact.

I’m really concerned that the safety record of Tesla is not all it’s advertised claimed to be.

Any comments or ideas, please?
 
So after I decided not to use their recommended collision shop, but insisted instead on bringing the car to Daya’s (a Certified Tesla Body Shop in Longwood), they completely reneged on their promise to “take care of me 1000%”, and told me to file an insurance claim. Daya’s found two issues that their body shop either ignored or were too incompetent to identify; damage to the plastic trim around the wheel well and a slight crease in the rear passenger door. Both these issues, if not identified, would have rendered the Y certainly far from show room condition. Additionally, Daya’s always sends every repaired Tesla where a bumper is removed and replaced back, to Tesla for sensor calibration (rear bumper needed to be removed for side panel painting). When I brought that to the attention of the PPF shop they just shrugged it off as Daya’s trying to pad their bill and it was just “totally unnecessary”. This was definitely a case of the PPF shop colluding with the body shop to perform a sub par repair in order to get away with minimal expense. Further proof of this is the fact that Nationwide Insurance (I filed a claim with my carrier) told me they never send a Tesla for repair to a shop that isn’t Tesla Certified and bumper recalibration is an absolute must in a repair like this. The lesson to be learned here is two fold: 1. Never let the shop that damages your car select the body shop to do the repair and 2. Tesla’s are just too complex to allow any just body shop to work on them. Use only a Certified Tesla Body Shop! After all, you wouldn’t bring your computer to an electrician for repairs.
 
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So after I decided not to use their recommended collision shop, but insisted instead on bringing the car to Daya’s (a Certified Tesla Body Shop in Longwood), they completely reneged on their promise to “take care of me 1000%”, and told me to file an insurance claim. Daya’s found two issues that their body shop either ignored or were too incompetent to identify; damage to the plastic trim around the wheel well and a slight crease in the rear passenger door. Both these issues, if not identified, would have rendered the Y certainly far from show room condition. Additionally, Daya’s always sends every repaired Tesla where a bumper is removed and replaced back, to Tesla for sensor calibration (rear bumper needed to be removed for side panel painting). When I brought that to the attention of the PPF shop they just shrugged it off as Daya’s trying to pad their bill and it was just “totally unnecessary”. This was definitely a case of the PPF shop colluding with the body shop to perform a sub par repair in order to get away with minimal expense. Further proof of this is the fact that Nationwide Insurance (I filed a claim with my carrier) told me they never send a Tesla for repair to a shop that isn’t Tesla Certified and bumper recalibration is an absolute must in a repair like this. The lesson to be learned here is two fold: 1. Never let the shop that damages your car select the body shop to do the repair and 2. Tesla’s are just too complex to allow any just body shop to work on them. Use only a Certified Tesla Body Shop! After all, you wouldn’t bring your computer to an electrician for repairs.
IDK, depending upon the shop's reputation that might not always be the best choice.
 
So after I decided not to use their recommended collision shop, but insisted instead on bringing the car to Daya’s (a Certified Tesla Body Shop in Longwood), they completely reneged on their promise to “take care of me 1000%”, and told me to file an insurance claim. Daya’s found two issues that their body shop either ignored or were too incompetent to identify; damage to the plastic trim around the wheel well and a slight crease in the rear passenger door. Both these issues, if not identified, would have rendered the Y certainly far from show room condition. Additionally, Daya’s always sends every repaired Tesla where a bumper is removed and replaced back, to Tesla for sensor calibration (rear bumper needed to be removed for side panel painting). When I brought that to the attention of the PPF shop they just shrugged it off as Daya’s trying to pad their bill and it was just “totally unnecessary”. This was definitely a case of the PPF shop colluding with the body shop to perform a sub par repair in order to get away with minimal expense. Further proof of this is the fact that Nationwide Insurance (I filed a claim with my carrier) told me they never send a Tesla for repair to a shop that isn’t Tesla Certified and bumper recalibration is an absolute must in a repair like this. The lesson to be learned here is two fold: 1. Never let the shop that damages your car select the body shop to do the repair and 2. Tesla’s are just too complex to allow any just body shop to work on them. Use only a Certified Tesla Body Shop! After all, you wouldn’t bring your computer to an electrician for repairs.
Why should you file an insurance claim? You weren’t driving it. If anything, THEY should file a claim with their insurance.

Next blast em on Yelp, BBB, and Twitter and see how quickly they will get their act together.
 
Some of the warning options you need to turn on or off. I don’t remember which ones. I just remember the first thing I did was go through all the options to turn on or off what I wanted.

Also for Warranty I think you need to take to certified Tesla shop or they might not honor future warranty issues related to things that could be affected because of the fender bender. So that was definitely best for you to do.

Lastly I think you fill the claim since it’s your car but they should cover it under their insurance if they were at fault. But it might get hairy since it’s technically your car and the driver of your car would be your insurance but you let them take it for repair. Did they have you sign a liability form when you had the work done? Lot of places have that in place for these type of things. But I would think/hope their insurance reimburses coverage for it so it doesn’t affect yours.

a rough situation for sure
 
No, didn’t even have the opportunity to go through the set up procedures. Not even my phone was paired to the car, let alone setting up Sentry Mode or Dash Cam. Will be doing all the set up when I finally get the car back approximately 2-3 weeks after the first day when I took delivery. I plan on posting the nastiest Google review that I can compose, as well as filing a diminished value claim against their insurance carrier and possibly a small claims suit against the PPF shop. I will also be posting their name here as soon as I’m certain I’ve extracted every last pound of flesh from them and don’t need them any more for anything related to the initial PPF install.