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Since the only diffs are the front bumper and lamps, I wouldn't call it gen 2. So no AP would be Gen 1 no AP, with AP would be Gen 1 AP, and this would be maybe Gen 1.1.
I think 1.1 is appropriate since this is significantly less than even Porsche mid refreshes... Like the 991.2 got turbo engines compared with 991.1; which is like akin to significantly new batteries or transmissions system for Model S.
So given that's just a .1 to .2 difference, Model S change deserves 1.0 to 1.1 change.
Or maybe original no AP was 1.0, AP is 1.1, and this is 1.2. Tho the amount of change from 1.1 to 1.2 is decidedly less than 1.0 to 1.1.
I think 1.1 is appropriate since this is significantly less than even Porsche mid refreshes... Like the 991.2 got turbo engines compared with 991.1; which is like akin to significantly new batteries or transmissions system for Model S.
So given that's just a .1 to .2 difference, Model S change deserves 1.0 to 1.1 change.
Or maybe original no AP was 1.0, AP is 1.1, and this is 1.2. Tho the amount of change from 1.1 to 1.2 is decidedly less than 1.0 to 1.1.
Something like this maybe?
1.0 - No AP
1.0.1 - AP Nosecone
1.1 - Refresh
This is at least how i would name them as releases but for conversation this seems a bit cryptic. plus how often would someone forget the middle 0 leading to confusion.
At the end of the day I think this will be an emergent solution from the community in the next few weeks (unless Tesla has some sort of internal code like BMW , MB that people start using)
1.0 - No AP
1.0.1 - AP Nosecone
1.1 - Refresh
This is at least how i would name them as releases but for conversation this seems a bit cryptic. plus how often would someone forget the middle 0 leading to confusion.
At the end of the day I think this will be an emergent solution from the community in the next few weeks (unless Tesla has some sort of internal code like BMW , MB that people start using)
That makes it feel like the recent refresh is HUGE, like more than AP, which it is decidedly not... I stick with my 1.0, 1.1, 1.2. And that's even generous for this refresh.
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I really like the new nose. Much more than I thought I would. I think it looks better on the S than the X because of the lower profile. I think they should do a variant of this on the 3, Like MB and BMW having derivatives on all their cars. I have always liked that strategy. It gives a sense of permanence and power to the brand.
I'm very happy that they did not junk it up like so many MFRs that change things for the sake of change and then end up ruining a lovely design. And of course, now I want it on mine!
I really like the new nose. Much more than I thought I would. I think it looks better on the S than the X because of the lower profile. I think they should do a variant of this on the 3, Like MB and BMW having derivatives on all their cars. I have always liked that strategy. It gives a sense of permanence and power to the brand.
I'm very happy that they did not junk it up like so many MFRs that change things for the sake of change and then end up ruining a lovely design. And of course, now I want it on mine!
New How about Perfection and Perfection Plus?
Yeah I couldn't help but think of the countach a bit today in the sense that it's a nice evolution of the design, keeping the car current.
The early design has its purity as Gandini's original intent, but the later cars with the flares and silly rear wing was what most of us had on our bedroom walls.
Yeah I couldn't help but think of the countach a bit today in the sense that it's a nice evolution of the design, keeping the car current.
The early design has its purity as Gandini's original intent, but the later cars with the flares and silly rear wing was what most of us had on our bedroom walls.
Thank you so much for posting this - I'm embarrassed to admit that I never knew there WAS a pure Countach design without the silly bits that made it look ridiculous. You're right - the original is beautiful. This is just like I've posted before here on TMC about the Gallardo - the original 2004 was a pure, simple, beautiful design - the later "refreshes" ruined it.
"Plastic Surgery" seemed to be the fate of most of the clean wedge cars from the 70s (and perhaps most of their owners). The Pantera and Esprit both followed Lamborghini down this path. I guess they had to figure out some way to keep 10+ year old designs current. Just look at all the crap they put on a G Wagon now.
I find the model S refresh interesting in that it doesn't follow the usual trope of the newer car having a more aggressive fascia with a deeper chin and more inlets.
I find the model S refresh interesting in that it doesn't follow the usual trope of the newer car having a more aggressive fascia with a deeper chin and more inlets.
There are Signature cars with Autopilot though (at least in Australia and maybe other markets?).
I think Classic model s versus New model s works well for the refresh. Or maybe Model S 2.0
I'd be surprised if the SC employees or development team hadn't already created their own differentiation. Based on my experience at Polaris they're probably better than whatever we'll come up with too.
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