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This is gonna be a train wreck....

Toshiba has dispatched a team to the United States for assessing impact of the possible Chapter 11 filing for Westinghouse, sources said Tuesday.

Westinghouse keeps claiming that they're committed to finishing the 4 AP1000 units currently under construction but Chapter 11 would allow them to renegotiate the contracts.

'According to the sources, Toshiba would be able to limit additional losses and burdens if it promotes revisions to its nuclear plant construction deals and reduces debt through the possible Chapter 11 filing.'

It'll be interesting to see what happens if it's cheaper for the investors to walk away and stick DOE with 4 unfinished nuclear units. That's what loan guarantees are for... right? :(
 
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This is gonna be a train wreck...
It'll be interesting to see what happens if it's cheaper for the investors to walk away and stick DOE with 4 unfinished nuclear units. That's what loan guarantees are for... right? :(
Much like this, in case people aren't familiar with WPPSS. Several in my family "invested" in these bonds, which were "revenue" bonds, so when the plants were cancelled, the investors got nothing. This may be one reason, and rightly so, that it has been nearly impossible to finance a nuclear power plant since the 1970s without federal loan guarantees/backing/insurance/indemnity or soaking the rate-payer BEFORE the plant is finished: Energy Northwest - Wikipedia
WPPSS became commonly known as "Whoops" due to over-commitment to nuclear power in the 1970s which brought about financial collapse and the second largest municipal bond default[2] in U.S. history.
 
This is gonna be a train wreck....

Toshiba has dispatched a team to the United States for assessing impact of the possible Chapter 11 filing for Westinghouse, sources said Tuesday.

Westinghouse keeps claiming that they're committed to finishing the 4 AP1000 units currently under construction but Chapter 11 would allow them to renegotiate the contracts.

'According to the sources, Toshiba would be able to limit additional losses and burdens if it promotes revisions to its nuclear plant construction deals and reduces debt through the possible Chapter 11 filing.'

It'll be interesting to see what happens if it's cheaper for the investors to walk away and stick DOE with 4 unfinished nuclear units. That's what loan guarantees are for... right? :(

Every day we get one day closer to when the "work" being done will not be done by people wearing construction outfits, but very expensive suits. When that day comes, the headline on every story will be "Construction pause only temporary...". We all know what that means.

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Twenty-sixteen saw a "dramatic" decline in the number of coal-fired power stations in pre-construction globally.

The authors of a new study say there was a 48% fall in planned coal units, with a 62% drop in construction starts.

The report, from several green campaign groups, claims changing policies and economic conditions in China and India were behind the decline.

However, the coal industry argues the fuel will remain essential to economic growth in Asia for decades to come.

Between 2006 and 2016, India and China together accounted for 85% of the coal plants built around the world.

But according to the Boom and Bust 2017 report, put together by Greenpeace, the Sierra Club and CoalSwarm, there has been a huge swing away from coal in these two countries in just 12 months.

The main causes of the decline are the imposition of restrictive measures by China's central government - with the equivalent of 600 coal-fired units being put on hold until at least 2020.

The Indian go-slow was prompted, according to the authors, by the reluctance of banks to provide funds. Work at 13 locations is currently not going ahead.

However, there have also been significant retirements of coal plants in Europe and the US over the past two years, with roughly 120 large units being taken out of commission.

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Full article at:
Plans for coal-fired power plants drop by almost half in 2016 - BBC News
 
The nuclear plant in Flamanville, France just had some kind of explosion happen. Officials say no radiation released, but there's essentially zero other information coming out yet. Two operating reactors on site, with a very overdue and over-budget EPR reactor under construction.

Flamanville reactor blast: No nuclear risk, say officials - BBC News
No radiation released is ALWAYS the first press release from anywhere (any country) in the world.
And NEVER will they evacuate until the truth leaks out and people have started to leave on their own.
 

Fission, perhaps. Fusion is still possible if the physicists involved get their asses in gear. ITER needs to be progressing twice as fast as it currently is. Otherwise, all those cocky physicists will be given their walking papers and end up teaching grade school science classes. And frankly, given the shortage of good science teachers for grade school, that might not be a bad result.

If he wasn't already overcommitted, I would say Elon should be given control over ITER. Someone needs to be lighting fires under their slothenly asses.
 
The nuclear plant in Flamanville, France just had some kind of explosion happen. Officials say no radiation released, but there's essentially zero other information coming out yet. Two operating reactors on site, with a very overdue and over-budget EPR reactor under construction.

Flamanville reactor blast: No nuclear risk, say officials - BBC News
French have found cracks in containment vessels - IF they can avoid corruption, the French will realize the risk, thank God for no meltdowns yet and shut down these plants when they reach end of life - usually 40 years - after 40 years virtually all materials bombarded by protons have degraded concrete, wire insulation, steel, I don't know of any materials that aren't degraded by protons.
I think ( can anyone verify? ) the French have found some of these cracks and actually shut down at least on plant.

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nuclear-storm-many-power-plants-down-due-to-quality-concerns/
 
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Much like this, in case people aren't familiar with WPPSS. Several in my family "invested" in these bonds, which were "revenue" bonds, so when the plants were cancelled, the investors got nothing. This may be one reason, and rightly so, that it has been nearly impossible to finance a nuclear power plant since the 1970s without federal loan guarantees/backing/insurance/indemnity or soaking the rate-payer BEFORE the plant is finished: Energy Northwest - Wikipedia
Of course private money won't invest in these white elephants.

NO insurance company, not even a re-insurer such as Lloyd's of London (they pool together many insurance companies to spread this risk on high value objects. That was how Larry Silverstein manage to get over what $5 billion just 6 weeks after putting down a partial deposit. Of course Larry got the 50 insurance companies and avoided going thru Lloyd's of London.

Tax payers to the rescue again. Price–Anderson Nuclear Industries Indemnity Act - Wikipedia
 
French have found cracks in containment vessels - IF they can avoid corruption, the French will realize the risk, thank God for no meltdowns yet and shut down these plants when they reach end of life - usually 40 years - after 40 years virtually all materials bombarded by protons have degraded concrete, wire insulation, steel, I don't know of any materials that aren't degraded by protons.
I think ( can anyone verify? ) the French have found some of these cracks and actually shut down at least on plant.

http://www.powermag.com/frances-nuclear-storm-many-power-plants-down-due-to-quality-concerns/
Dec 1, 2016 - The discovery of widespread carbon segregation problems in critical nuclear plant components has crippled the French power industry—20 of the country's 58 reactors are currently offline and under heavy scrutiny. France's nuclear safety chairman said more anomalies “will likely be found,” as the extent of ...

Are you experiencing google censorship? Can you call up the above article?
 
Von Hoene described nuclear power as "a bridge to a different kind of carbon-free world."

The article's title really doesn't express Von Hoene's point. Operating costs, before paying back loans, are too high to run *existing* nuclear plants. He relates the much longer odds we'll ever see new ones, but it is the retirements that are the story. 1-2 cents/KWh would layer above 2-3 cent wholesale prices, and keep them on. The whole issue takes place in an entirely different price arena, than retail power prices to the consumer. In a 4-5 cent wholesale market, these plants would stay alive. People paying 15-20 cents, on average in CA, or paying closer to 20 cents in MA, CT, RI, who subordinate nuclear risk to CO2 risk, probably wouldn't flinch at 1-2 cent support (it implies a $10-20 carbon price, or "ZEC", if it blocks coal, $20-40 if natural gas). Someone earlier saying "500 million" in NY doesn't mean anything, in a vacuum.

There isn't much to taking a holistic view, if one is anti-nuclear. You want them all shut down, and can remain singularly focused. If you hate fracking, you can be singular there, too. If you love wind and/or solar...."me too". But if you prioritize global warming and economics, you realize more of a stratified "all hands on deck" mentality regarding the number of implied carbon prices you'll need to face in order to have a prayer of keeping temperature increases near 2C.

From where I sit, I was talking to a utility yesterday, who closed its nuke and aims to have its coal DOWN TO ~50% of all generation, by 2020. They should have zero fear of federal regulation, because their state has developed wind to "beat the band". They're legally set. That coal can keep chugging. Holistically, it is still there in the mix, just as a lot of natural gas will still be in CA's mix, after Diablo Canyon closes, in 2025. Holistically, there is a point where wind and solar growth will see greater challenge without 24/7 dispatch'able support, or expensive storage. Holistically, Brattle group is out there saying we could have 75% more U.S. electric consumption, from EVs and electric water heaters by 2050 (Yes, >3,000TWh, if we're lucky!).

But people would rather dance on the graves of nuclear plants, than show concern for years of state RPS progress going down the tubes, and/or the consequences of new generation, upon CO2. PJM (that's the major ISO that crosses the midwest) reported that backfills for its coal & nuke closures will be 60% natural gas, and 18% wind. http://www.monitoringanalytics.com/reports/PJM_State_of_the_Market/2017/2017-som-pjm-sec12.pdf . It's a start, but it won't even halve their emissions.

There are plenty of environmentalists wanting to mimic, or defend, the ZEC supports found in IL, and NY (NRDC, EDF..). NJ just passed something towards its. But because this is so political, and the Republicans and Trump want to do it their (+coal) way, most states, or ISO's represented by the FERC, might take their marbles home. For different reasons, much of the political spectrum wants the same thing (yes, some don't), but this is sort of how the $7,500 battery tax-credit passed. They weren't screaming "CO2". They found common ground.
 
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Fission, perhaps. Fusion is still possible if the physicists involved get their asses in gear. ITER needs to be progressing twice as fast as it currently is. Otherwise, all those cocky physicists will be given their walking papers and end up teaching grade school science classes. And frankly, given the shortage of good science teachers for grade school, that might not be a bad result.

If he wasn't already overcommitted, I would say Elon should be given control over ITER. Someone needs to be lighting fires under their slothenly asses.


ITER is a giant - never ending - money sucking pithole. See the movie "Let there be light" tonight Let There Be Light or else on Amazon Prime
 
ITER is a giant - never ending - money sucking pithole. See the movie "Let there be light" tonight Let There Be Light or else on Amazon Prime
Example 1 of what I'm talking about. It's one of the more important scientific endeavors of the last century and opposition against it is mounting. Not because it's bad science, but because it's bad execution.
 
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Since electricity from direct solar photovoltaic pannels and wind have turned out so cheap, the only thing left to fully develop are batteries and transmission. While that's being done, nuclear is no longer necessary to provide current needs, and nuclear turns matter into heat, heating up the planet, which as a side effect is a bad thing. If we were intentionally trying to heat up the planet as a planned effort, that would be different.

I'm in favor of learning about how physics works regarding nuclear fusion, but not at the cost of solar energy collection rollout. Nuclear fusion is no longer deemed necessary for our current needs. For future needs, such as space options, that is a different category as far as I'm concerned, and shouldn't be funded with the same pools of money meant to clean up energy and provide domestic energy.

It looks like we'll improve our situation a lot if things like this keep happening:

Saudi Arabia Sets Sights on $200 Billion Solar Energy Investment

I wonder why Electrek.Co isn't covering it. The Colombians must hate it.
 
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We really need to get rid of personal cars, and jobs. These do more damage to the spotted hamster than all other reasons combined.

California is leading the way. Try to catch up! We have one of the highest 'corrected' poverty levels in the 48 contiguous states. Corrected levels include the actual cost of surviving near where jobs exist in the state. Housing, taxes, transportation, fees, utilities, etc.
 
Since electricity from direct solar photovoltaic pannels and wind have turned out so cheap, the only thing left to fully develop are batteries and transmission. While that's being done, nuclear fusion is no longer necessary to provide current needs, and nuclear anything turns matter into heat, heating up the planet, which as a side effect is a bad thing. ...

Mankind will never catch up with the sun when it comes to heat and radiation production. We won't even catch up with geothermal heating.

Increases in temperature are what cause everything. Apparently the worse year for manmade pollution in California was 1883 when global warming caused massive rainfall. While we had less the 1 million humans, each one burned 35 times as much gasoline as we do today. Yes, I know gasoline was a rare solvent and cars were non-existent in CA, but we did clean a lot of stuff with gas, hence the high consumption.

Make no mistake. Rain is caused by heat, not cold. Warming causes rain, not drought under nearly all situations. It makes plants shed more water, the ground shed more water, and of course causes bodies of water to cough up huge amounts.

So as the earth's temperature rises, we will see heavier and heavier rainfall, and it will escalate geometrically. Since rainfall causes plants, ground water, and bodies of water to increase, this allows greater increases evaporation area. Which causes more rain, which causes more evaporation area. We will all drown by 1984.
 
With its sunny climate and environmentally-focused policies, California has long been a leader for solar in the United States. But in March of 2018, the state broke a solar record when the California Independent System Operator — which manages the flow of electricity for 80 percent of the state — saw an all-time record for peak demand of electricity met by solar energy: 49.95 percent on March 4, up from the previous peak of 47.2 percent set on May 14, 2017.
 
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