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Premium connectivity Spotify
- Thread starter OliLondon
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This is so frustrating. Tesla has made it really difficult to play high quality audio (CD level or higher) and it would be so easy for them to rectify by providing an aux input or WiFi streaming. Hopefully one day... For now Bluetooth is pretty good.
MrBadger
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Hopefully if the reports regarding Tidal being integrated into the car are true, then there will be another option - plus Tidal integrates with other apps really nicely.
I hope so, but if Tesla still throttles the bitrate to only 64-96 kbps it won't do much good to have Tidal either
We would get the music selection of Tidal, but not the CD+ quality, which for most people is the whole reason for using Tidal in the first place. Still, maybe we will get a surprise and Elon will lift the bitrate limit.
MrBadger
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I don't see any reason why Tesla would throttle the bitrate, in fact, it would actually be pretty difficult to do on Masters material. I am sure it was no coincidence that Tesla upped the maximum supported sample rate to 192/24 at around the same time that EM started mentioning Tidal. Tesla unfortunately seem to treat USB media as an afterthought so one may conclude that something else was driving the decision.
Bandwidth on mobile networks is expensive. Reducing the bitrate reduces the bandwidth being used, which reduces their bill to whoever provided the connectivity.
£10 a month is a pretty low amount to pay for data, Spotify and whatever else is included. They likely get a decent discount for bulk, but there won’t be much profit that.
This is my thinking as well. How do they offer video though, like Netflix? Is that only when wifi is available?
despite the sheer size of the tesla screen I don’t like having the music overlay (at any size other than basic album art) because it eats into the satnav screen - and the satnav doesn’t adapt. Eg moving the car position to consider the visible space or shrink the Turn by turn panel
combined with browsing only when stopped (or with a passenger doing it) and I don’t mind setting that up on a phone
Drew57
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I've used Premium connectivity & Netflix almost at every supercharger stop & occasionally while waiting somewhere else. This is always via LTE not wifi & the same goes for YouTube
MrBadger
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Tidal has licensed some pretty nifty technology (MQA) to allow high sample rate material to be streamed at very reasonable bit rates. If Tesla allow video to be streamed, I don't see why they would have an issue with high quality audio other than via their existing fair use policy. And there is always the option of using a wifi hotspot. Alas, I suspect the issue would be more about licensing the likes of MQA within the current Premium Connectivity package, but even still, lossless 'CD quality' would still be much better than what is currently offered.
Yes.
Interesting. I'm pretty sure even Standard Definition Netflix requires 2-3 mbps of bitrate. I am very surprised that Tesla allows this throughput for video but limits audio to only 64-96 kbps. I wonder if I'm wrong about the audio bitrate limit? Of course it may be different there in the UK.
In that case, the issue is probably due to the deal with Spotify. The free Spotify account is a lower bitrate. This is probably something akin to that.
Drew57
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Actual bitrate is conjecture for now but playing the same piece of music back-to-back between Spotify and hi-res USB FLAC (Premium sound system), the difference is very noticeable. Treble is smoother & bass much tighter, deeper and better defined.
Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if Spotify was actually 192mbps as 64-96 & even 128 are generally much thinner & harsher sounding than this.
When alone I play USB/FLAC & for my wife, the saved Spotify playlist.
Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if Spotify was actually 192mbps as 64-96 & even 128 are generally much thinner & harsher sounding than this.
When alone I play USB/FLAC & for my wife, the saved Spotify playlist.
ElectricChapel
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Does signing into Spotify with a premium account improve the quality/bitrate?
Does using WiFi/mobile hotspot improve the quality?
Does using WiFi/mobile hotspot improve the quality?
Good question. Only from reading posts here on TMC. Every time I see a bitrate mentioned for built in Spotify it has been either 64 or 96 kbps. I don’t know how they arrived at this number and am attempting to learn more myself.
Here is an example thread regarding the bitrate:
teslamotorsclub.com
Spotify: Bluetooth vs Tesla built in app
Is there a difference in sound quality using Spotify via Bluetooth (iPhone 11) vs using Tesla built in Spotify app? I find it much easier to navigate and edit playlist in my iPhone than the in-car app. so, I want to know if I’m giving up sound quality if I continue using my iPhone app.
teslamotorsclub.com
kelvin 660
White SR+ with LFP battery
No download facility but as it roams on all networks its unusual to not have a signal in my experience.
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