Price Drop on MS 100D?

[markn455]

I ordered a 100D the end of January. I received the VIN on February 2nd. Today I was in the designer and for kicks built my identical car again. Much to my surprise the base price of the Model S 100D is $4300 less and the delivery fees dropped by $75. Will Tesla adjust the price since the price dropped so much? If not, it would almost make sense to pay the penalty, cancel my order, and re-order the car again. It would seem to me that if Tesla decided to lower the price they should or would lower the price of my car since it is nothing more than a VIN at the moment.

Curious,

Mark

 

[Tiger]

This has happened in the past and makes sense Tesla just reduced the price of 100D and P100D see also 75D to 100D price difference between S and X

 

[outie]

Can you post the spec of your car? Are you sure you are not looking at the pre/post savings prices?

 

[Robotpedlr]

I just configured my ms 100D exactly as my Dec delivery version. Same price no decrease. Did you forget an option?

 

[bob_p]

Just checked and compared current pricing to what we paid for our S 100D when we ordered it in January 2018.

Our configuration cost around $117,000 a year ago - and is now around $114,000, so there has been a price decrease. We purchased everything but the winter package (which is now standard) and the 72A charger (chargers are no longer an option) - those options would have increased our configuration to around $119,500. That means Tesla has reduced the price by about $5,500 over 12 months - and now bundles more features as standard or part of PUP.

This is pretty consistent with what Tesla has done on the Model S.

Our first Model S - a P85 delivered in January 2013, cost around $104K - which was fully loaded at the time (in the early cars, they didn't include many options available today - power folding mirrors, parking sensors, TACC, AP, ...).

Until the fall of 2016, we could buy a replacement Model S with comparable performance (dual motor instead of performance rear wheel drive), with longer range, and fully loaded with many new features - for around $104K. Which means Tesla continued to add more and more features and longer range, without increasing the price point.

That changed when AP2 was introduced - and the price quickly jumped - and has stayed about $10K higher - with the addition of EAP/FSD (which can be activated after purchase).

So, it's not surprising to see Tesla lowering the price slightly on the Model S over the past 12 months, especially since they haven't introduced any major new features.

 

[outie]

Just checked and compared current pricing to what we paid for our S 100D when we ordered it in January 2018.

Our configuration cost around $117,000 a year ago - and is now around $114,000, so there has been a price decrease. We purchased everything but the winter package (which is now standard) and the 72A charger (chargers are no longer an option) - those options would have increased our configuration to around $119,500. That means Tesla has reduced the price by about $5,500 over 12 months - and now bundles more features as standard or part of PUP.

This is pretty consistent with what Tesla has done on the Model S.

Our first Model S - a P85 delivered in January 2013, cost around $104K - which was fully loaded at the time (in the early cars, they didn't include many options available today - power folding mirrors, parking sensors, TACC, AP, ...).

Until the fall of 2016, we could buy a replacement Model S with comparable performance (dual motor instead of performance rear wheel drive), with longer range, and fully loaded with many new features - for around $104K. Which means Tesla continued to add more and more features and longer range, without increasing the price point.

That changed when AP2 was introduced - and the price quickly jumped - and has stayed about $10K higher - with the addition of EAP/FSD (which can be activated after purchase).

So, it's not surprising to see Tesla lowering the price slightly on the Model S over the past 12 months, especially since they haven't introduced any major new features.

A year ago yes, a lot of changes have been made like more options became standard. What OP seems to indicate is that the pricing is few thousand different between end of last month and now, which doesn’t seem right. If there was a price drop that big it’d be all over the EV news sites and reddit.

 

[SucreTease]

I ordered a 100D the end of January. I received the VIN on February 2nd. Today I was in the designer and for kicks built my identical car again. Much to my surprise the base price of the Model S 100D is $4300 less and the delivery fees dropped by $75.

The price hasn't changed since it dropped from $97,500 to $94,000 back at the end of August. The car (and delivery) costs exactly the same amount as when I ordered it at the beginning of November. You must have changed something when you reconfigured.

 

[Uncle Paul]

Maybe they are doing what Henry Ford did. Ford constantly reduced the prices of his cars as the volume increased and his costs of production were reduced. His goal was not to make as much money as possible on every vehicle, but to reduce the price to enable more people to afford his cars.

I know that Elon's goal is to convert as many people as possible to electric transportation. Providing increasingly better cars, at decreasing costs would certaintly help convert more people.

You should contact your delivery specialist. Explain what you have found, and see what he says.

 

[Tiger]

This has happened in the past and makes sense Tesla just reduced the price of 100D and P100D see also 75D to 100D price difference between S and X

Finally: Tesla Slashes Model 3, S & X Pricing In China: Up To $51,000 Less - Tesla Motors Club

 

[Galinette]

In Europe, the price for a 100D just dropped by ~25k€ and P100d by ~50k€...

Which means, that if like me you purchased a 100D without premium pack and MCU1 last year, for about 110k€, now you have a P100D with premium pack and MCU2 for 95k€

Damit...

 

[sandpiper]

I just looked back at what I paid for my 100D in September. With options it was $138,800 CAD. Today, with the same spec it's $118,000 CAD. Or I could have gotten a P100D for $139,300 CAD.

I'm not losing a lot of sleep over it, but yeah... Tesla could probably have handled that a bit better. If you're somebody who really reached hard to get the car, this would burn a bit.

 

[AMPd]

I just looked back at what I paid for my 100D in September. With options it was $138,800 CAD. Today, with the same spec it's $118,000 CAD. Or I could have gotten a P100D for $139,300 CAD.

I'm not losing a lot of sleep over it, but yeah... Tesla could probably have handled that a bit better. If you're somebody who really reached hard to get the car, this would burn a bit.

How should they have handled it better?
By your logic they’re never allowed to drop prices because previous buyers would be upset.

 

[sandpiper]

They should have started earlier. And they could have done more in iteratively including premium features, then introducing cheaper versions, then including features... and so on. That way it’s not as obviously just a huge price cut.

Of course it’s easy to be an armchair critic.

 

[shirosan]

I wasn't sure if I should of started a new thread (for max views) or to post on a current (relevant) thread. I chose the latter...

OK, here we go: I know a lot of us Model S owners (and possible Model X owners) are not too thrilled with the sudden price change and continued lack of quality customer support from Tesla. I wanted to share a little of my story (with eye candy below) just as food for thought.

[First MS100D] The first image (MS100D vin 259xxx) was my first model S I ordered back in April of 2018 as a college graduation (2nd Masters) and work accomplishment gift to myself. I've never spent over 60K for a vehicle before but as an owner of Tesla solar and Powerwall(s), the unlimited supercharging and unlimited life time data/premium services pulled me in to making a long term commitment (6 years). The car was amazing and performed well, until about a month later a drunk driver totaled the car and had only $10k of insurance coverage. The insurance claim process felt more challenging than getting a college degree, IMO. Ultimately, I lost my 1.49% interest rate, Unlimited Supercharging, and Life-time Premium Service (the key items that pushed my MS100D purchase).

[Second (my current) MS100D] After a few months and finally getting paid I was able to purchase another MS100D (second image vin 27xxxx), which had pretty much the same build, except the premium upgrade package (sound system, HEPA, etc.) was included in the package. This time I went with a new inventory vehicle with 1,250 miles, which I will never do new inventory again with Tesla (i.e. trash under seats, side mirror issues, blown tweeter, missing key fob, etc.). I did the new inventory route since I wanted to get the vehicle before the end of December 2018. Other than some minor repairs, I noticed the car does not 'feel' the same as my first car. It may just be me, but my first MS100D felt a little more responsive (yes, I enabled the same settings as before). My first MS100D's range reported 309 miles @ 90% SOC vs my current with 299 miles @ 90% SOC). The battery pack health specs when I had them pulled was around ~101kWh (first vehicle) and ~98kWh (second & current vehicle).

[Ordering a March 2019 'long-range' MS, aka MS100D] Looking at the prices of the current long-range MS100D (pulled 15 March 2019) and configured as closely as my current Tesla (manufacture August 2018), you can see some significant prices changes: $89,000 vs $106,050, respectively, which is a $17,050 price difference. While I am happy for our future MS owners who do not have to pay as much, and applaud our current and previous MS owners (for paying more, which helped support the R&D and advancement for our great US company, Tesla), it is still a slight stigma knowing that I had to request (after a couple months) my 6 months of free supercharging (which I hardly use since I use a HPWC at home) and still paid top price...kind of blows LOL.

This post is just my 2.5 cents and I wanted to share some factual data and a scenario. I know, first world problems, right? Ugh.

MS100D | Ordered April 2018 | Manufactured May 2019 | VIN xxx...259xxx :

MS100D | Ordered Nov 2018 (New Inventory) | Manufactured August 2019 | VIN xxx...27xxxx :

MS100D | Ordered March 2019 | Manufactured April 2019:
*estimate pulled on 15 March 2019