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Production delays and loss of tax credit dilema

cpa

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May 17, 2014
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My $7,500 opinion on the tax law changes:

We are quite deep into the year. Congress takes a week or so hiatus for Turkey Day and, I believe, two weeks for the holidays. Most major tax legislation is usually passed in summer. This timing allows for remedial legislation to be passed that corrects flaws or misstatements in the original law. It also lets the lawyers for Treasury to begin drafting the regs that interpret the law and Congress' intent for those areas that impact most taxpayers. It is really, really difficult to prepare taxes accurately and professionally with new and unfamiliar terms, definitions, scenarios, and the like without regulations to guide us as to how facts, circumstances, and transactions apply to these new laws. Treasury regulations offer a lot of insight until disputes work their way through the court system, which we know can take years and years.

It is true that in prior years there has been tax legislation passed in November or December--even late January a few years back. But most of those bills were extenders of provisions that had sunset dates written into them, not a brand-spanking new Title 26.

I would think that if there were a brand new tax code that the Senate and House will not hammer out a joint bill until late in the first quarter. By then, we will be too deep into the new year to have all the provisions be retroactive to January 1. We taxpayers make our personal, business, and financial decisions daily. Much of the economy would grind to a halt while we sat around waiting for Congress to do something.

If I am right about the timing of the passage, then it would be political suicide for selected provisions like the repeal of the Section 30D credit, among other things, were retroactive to January 1. If this repeal does make it to the President's desk, I could see it repealed effective the day the bill is voted upon, or a date shortly thereafter (like the end of a calendar quarter,) or repealed effective December 31, 2018, for years beginning in 2019.

Take my words with a hefty dose of sodium chloride. I could be w-a-a-a-y wrong.
 

canny714

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Sep 21, 2017
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I so want a Model 3 right away... It is getting harder and harder to watch all these vlogger reviews.
I thought I could wait patiently but this news about the tax incentives being on the chopping block is really starting to get to me.
Mytelsa expected delivery date still starts with December, but everyone is saying that is a pipe dream at this point.
Financially I should probably give up and just buy a Bolt with the existing tax incentives, but when I start to get serious about that, I keep thinking how much I would feel like the Bolt is a letdown compared to Model 3.
Ugh... I don't know what to do other than agonize over possible outcomes and wait like a deer in the headlights of indecision.

My best advice: Don't buy a car based on the tax credit. Buy the car you love and pay what you need to for it. #nocompromise
 
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azred

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Apr 12, 2016
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I so want a Model 3 right away... It is getting harder and harder to watch all these vlogger reviews.
I thought I could wait patiently but this news about the tax incentives being on the chopping block is really starting to get to me.
Mytelsa expected delivery date still starts with December, but everyone is saying that is a pipe dream at this point.
Financially I should probably give up and just buy a Bolt with the existing tax incentives, but when I start to get serious about that, I keep thinking how much I would feel like the Bolt is a letdown compared to Model 3.
Ugh... I don't know what to do other than agonize over possible outcomes and wait like a deer in the headlights of indecision.
I'm in the group starting this month and I believe my chances before Jan 1 are 0%, so you'd be less than zero! I still want a Model 3 but have always intended to wait until other configuration options are available, if tax credit was gone. Luckily I don't need a replacement car so I may even wait a couple years. But I'm leaving my $1000 on deposit so I'll be able to configure when I decide to pull the trigger. I think I'll get a better car and one that will better fit my requirements so it's a mixed blessing.

BTW I took the tour this week and thought it was interesting that we only got a quick glimpse of the M3 line in the distance. Take of that what you will. Perhaps it means nothing.
 
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azred

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Apr 12, 2016
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2,157
Chandler, AZ
Zero Hedge is right 97% of the time. Sometimes they jump the gun and wrong.
McCain has reiterated in the past few weeks that he will not support anything bypassing regular order, so unless he changes his mind, he’s probably a no vote for any attempt to ram this through by Christmas. But I don’t think he has come close to making any statement about voting no on any specific tax bill — House or Senate versions.

ZeroHedge story is Fake News with a basis in fact.:)
 

joefee

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May 29, 2011
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CA
You do not want a Bolt. Get the M3 configuration you can afford! You will thank me everyday you drive your M3.
 
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