Production (Non-Sig) Model X Vin #'s now being issued

[aesculus]

I do not understand how my X could possibly have a VIN # virtually the same as my S. What happened to the 15,000 folks in front of me? Not complaining but seems very odd.

Just for the heck of it what was your reservation number for the Model S? My neighbor reported the same behavior for their S as we are seeing for the X. They jumped ahead of all sorts of people in the reservation queue then too.

Several reasons.
1. Only a small subset of reservation holders actually placed an order.
2. For the VIN, the sequence number is irrelevant. Only the confirmation date, the car configuration, the current moon phase and the alignment of the Cassiopeia constellation matter.
3. The Model S VINs have no relevance to the Model X VINs. They VIN sequence started back at 00001 with production X models.

I think that answer #1 is it. For delivery its #1 and #2.

 

[napabill]

Just for the heck of it what was your reservation number for the Model S? My neighbor reported the same behavior for their S as we are seeing for the X. They jumped ahead of all sorts of people in the reservation queue then too.


I think that answer #1 is it. For delivery its #1 and #2.

With the Model S, I was Production reservation #83. So ultimately getting a VIN of 1571 made sense:1,200 Sigs, 200 Founders, 150 company cars. The math doesn't work on the X. If in fact the numbers we have been assigned represent a sequential VIN #, then there are huge number of fence sitters and/or cancelations.

 

[aesculus]

With the Model S, I was Production reservation #83. So ultimately getting a VIN of 1571 made sense:1,200 Sigs, 200 Founders, 150 company cars. The math doesn't work on the X. If in fact the numbers we have been assigned represent a sequential VIN #, then there are huge number of fence sitters and/or cancelations.

The VINs start over on production as well as Signatures and Founders. So a production VIN of 2000 on a Model X could be 50 Founders (~15 original + 35 fbr) + 1050 Signatures would make the total amount of Model X VINs assigned to be more around 3100 cars.

I thought the S did the same thing? If so, you waited a bit before you confirmed?

All these Model X VINs past around 700 or so were done around the first of the year. Its pretty well known (but not proven) that a lot of Model X reservation holders did not reserve when they were first asked to. Some cancelled, some moved over to the S and there are lots who are waiting to see/try one, waiting for QC to improve or waiting for some new feature (bigger battery, folding seats, AP 2.0 ...).

 

[quartzav]

...If in fact the numbers we have been assigned represent a sequential VIN #, then there are huge number of fence sitters and/or cancelations.

Or in my case the astrological constellation alignment wasn't in our favor when we confirm the order, Tesla just skipped us and give VINs to you guys instead :wink:

 

[CaliX]

Well I just got off the phone with tesla 800 sales because my DS is not responding to my calls or emails, that was an interesting call... I told them I just noticed on the 2nd my 90D has a VIN and I had been told by my DS it would be August at the earliest before I would get my X and he said that sounds about right because they are only doing P90D's right now but he let me look at you order and see whats going on then he came back and said your right you do have a VIN he said it's the first 90D he's seen with a VIN. Then he said let me put you on hold again and check with my supervisor to see if its a mistake and he came back with a sense of urgency in his voice and said no it legit and it is going into production now. I said well I need 30 days to get my end together he said I can't give you exact timing or why this happened but I will contact your DS now and have them get in contact with you ASAP.

Don't know what to think now.

 

[napabill]

Well I just got off the phone with tesla 800 sales because my DS is not responding to my calls or emails, that was an interesting call... I told them I just noticed on the 2nd my 90D has a VIN and I had been told by my DS it would be August at the earliest before I would get my X and he said that sounds about right because they are only doing P90D's right now but he let me look at you order and see whats going on then he came back and said your right you do have a VIN he said it's the first 90D he's seen with a VIN. Then he said let me put you on hold again and check with my supervisor to see if its a mistake and he came back with a sense of urgency in his voice and said no it legit and it is going into production now. I said well I need 30 days to get my end together he said I can't give you exact timing or why this happening but I will contact your DS now and have them get in contact with you ASAP.

Don't know what to think now.

Yikes! Haven't even told my wife yet that I confirmed. Figured I could wait for the right time.

What is your VIN?

 

[CaliX]

Yikes! Haven't even told my wife yet that I confirmed. Figured I could wait for the right time.

What is your VIN?

Low 1600

 

[BornToFly]

Several reasons.
1. Only a small subset of reservation holders actually placed an order.
2. For the VIN, the sequence number is irrelevant. Only the confirmation date, the car configuration, the current moon phase and the alignment of the Cassiopeia constellation matter.
3. The Model S VINs have no relevance to the Model X VINs. They VIN sequence started back at 00001 with production X models.

Sorry, #1 is definitely wrong. I reserved almost 3 years ago. Confirmed and locked in my order 12/2/2015. Still no VIN. He did just jump in front of me and 15,000 other people, probably because he ordered the correct combination of features that they are ready to assemble right now. It is just frustrating that they don't tell us what the magic combo is, so that those of us that ordered 3 years ago can get our freaking cars....

 

[Darryl]

New to TMC so point me in the right direction please. I have scrolled through this thread but don't see that many posts regarding ACTUAL deliveries on Production (non-Signature) Model X P90D. MY DS has been useless so hoping I will get some insights/answers here.

My Model X P90D was reserved 1/2013, ordered 12/2/2015 and confirmed on 12/9/2015. I got my VIN number assigned around 12/22 (not exactly sure). VIN number is 0308 and I ordered basically everything except L (22" Onyx Black, Tan Leather Seats, Seven Seat, Autopilot, Premium Upgrades. Ultra High Fidelity Sound, and Subzero Weather Package).

Has anybody had DELIVERY of a X (Production/Not Signature) with a VIN number near mine? What is the highest VIN number?

@VFan

DWebb66 is right. So far not a single person who has ordered BlackOnyx Wheels on their car have had a car delivered. If you were to order today and pick this option it would tell you delivery would be the second half of the year. Several people have been told September but Tesla isn't saying anything if you inquire. There have been people who have paid the change fee of $500 and changed their wheels to silver or went with 20 inch wheels. Tesla has recently downgraded the mileage with 22 inch wheels vs 20 inch wheels. There is also something about if you order 22 inch wheels what type of tire you get. You may want to read the other forums about 22" wheels.

 

[jsollender]

Looks fairly obvious from other sub threads that the dump of VINs was exclusive to Californians with 90D and 6-7 seats, auto pilot and premium. If that does not define your order please step aside and let the others step forward. Seems TM wants ease of delivery in March to Californians to fulfill prophecy of quoted numbers of delivery for Q1.

 

[highedu]

Looks fairly obvious from other sub threads that the dump of VINs was exclusive to Californians with 90D and 6-7 seats, auto pilot and premium. If that does not define your order please step aside and let the others step forward. Seems TM wants ease of delivery in March to Californians to fulfill prophecy of quoted numbers of delivery for Q1.

that is my setup and location but I did not get a vin....seems there is another condition to the logic in addition

 

[LeonardD]

Perhaps the configuration choices and the confirmation date together makes the difference, and then add some random numbers for fun. I hope more groups get VINs each week.

 

[MikeL]

Uuucghgh.

 

[Darryl]

They have around 1,000 P90D cars that were provided VINS going back as far as December 23rd that still have not been delivered. These also all had autopilot and premium options and are somewhere in the production process. So far they still have delivered less than 150 production cars. To think they will be able to produce a 1000 90Ds and get them to the purchasers by the end of the month is very very unlikely. People are thinking the reason they picked CA cars was because they are trying to get them done before the end of the quarter. This is not necessarily the reason they decided to pick CA 90D cars. They are much more likely, but still doubtful to get the P90Ds orders which are already in progress to the customer by the end of March rather than the ones which have just been given VINs recently. Since starting to produce the X's very few production cars have taken less than 7 weeks and almost all more than 9 -10 weeks from the time assigned a VIN to delivery. Most of the original people getting a VIN got it from 12/23 to 1/18 and have yet to see their car. It has been between 8-11 weeks and counting. I know if the P90Ds were to start showing up next week it would be LUDICROUS and make some P90D buyers real happy. Only time will tell.

 

[ModelXBoy]

My DS is hard to get in touch with. When I did, he confirmed still on track for March delivery for my p90dl with everything. I do believe him. Will see what happened. My excitement died down a bit due to the 100 kW option in the near future. Felt waited 2 years and get a nearly outdated car for 150k. Oh well, never chase technology I guess.

 

[andrewket]

My DS is hard to get in touch with. When I did, he confirmed still on track for March delivery for my p90dl with everything. I do believe him. Will see what happened. My excitement died down a bit due to the 100 kW option in the near future. Felt waited 2 years and get a nearly outdated car for 150k. Oh well, never chase technology I guess.

Yeah, it's annoying. With the additional weight etc of the X it really could use the additional 10 kWh (kWh is energy btw; kW is power). If the 100 kWh pack is released soon, the change will go down as the X sig and early production tax. But Tesla has to draw the line somewhere, and no matter what you do, some group is going to be unhappy.

 

[Darryl]

Yeah, it's annoying. With the additional weight etc of the X it really could use the additional 10 kWh (kWh is energy btw; kW is power). If the 100 kWh pack is released soon, the change will go down as the X sig and early production tax. But Tesla has to draw the line somewhere, and no matter what you do, some group is going to be unhappy.

As I replied to the post about the 100 kWh battery we would have been nieve to think they weren't continue to work on the batteries but there is nothing which indicated it will be released anytime soon. There is also nothing saying there will not be a 95 before there is a 100. To get from a 90 to a 95 in the current platform is extremely difficult but to then get to 100 is exponentially more difficult. I had read 100 will be the last for the current platform. Future batteries will be on a new platform designed and developed at the Gigafactory which is currently a year behind schedule and by the time it is finished another plant will be needed because of the Model 3 demand (at least that is what they are hoping. )

Also there is nothing in the post to indicate the increase will happen anytime soon. It is very doubtful it will come out during the 2016 model timeframe. For Tesla it would be better financially to come in the 2017 model year (January 2017) and charge an update fee for 2016 owners.

Right now now all is a rumor and nothing to worry about b

 

[SMSMD]

@Darryl
I see from your signature that your delivery date is March 10th, Good luck this time.

 

[Darryl]

@Darryl
I see from your signature that your delivery date is March 10th, Good luck this time.

@SMSMD. It may be a few days earlier but Thursday is worse case. I probably delayed it as I put together a list of things I wanted them to verify wouldn't be an issue, like leaking Gulf Wing doors, wind noise from front doors etc. The list of things based on what other users have posted. Things which you may not find at just looking at the car. I sent it to them last week and they sent it to the service department. She told me last week they were going through the list.

 

[elguapo]

@Darryl. would you mind sharing the list you sent? I hope to take delivery within 30 days and appreciate any help for others that I can get.