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Blastphemy
Member
I wonder if the ventilated seats are just the bottom seat cushion, or the entire seatback as well? Cars with cooled/ventilated seats have either just the seat bottom or also a small section of lower back included. I don't know of any car that has the full seat cooled/ventilated. That would add some value if it was the entire seatback too.
chickensevil
Active Member
I thought this too, originally but apparently that is part of the 5k. As the base 70D between the two cars is 75k and 80k respectively which doesn't include the pano roof on the S.
Only the front 2 seats are ventilated with the premium package. I agree overall they held true to the $5k more than Model S. Having certain features required versus optional on Model X doesn't matter. The point is you are never paying more than $5k than you would for a Model S with the same features, and in cases where it's slightly more you are getting more.
Those Premium options grouped together is extremely odd. Clean air, party lighting, and automatic door opening when you walk up to it just seem like entirely different interest groups. The first is a group of people that want to live much, much longer and be much, much happier while doing it, and I actually wouldn't understand not ordering clean air. The second group of people is a bunch of boozed drugged out party people who want dazzle and bling, plus super rich people who just like nice stuff, plus well off people who want the added safety of the moving headlight. I get getting it, but I just don't see it as the same group of people who want clean air. It seems spendy to me. The clean air you'll make back in spades due to lower medical bills (unless you're a baby or small child, in which case, visiting a dirty farm is actually good for you so it's the opposite). The third group -- the people who want the door to open for them -- that's for clumsy people like me, who also have a bit of extra cash. It's one less thing to fumble with, and that's good. But once again -- entirely different group of people.
I'd be very tempted to skip out on the fancy lighting and really have to figure out if I wanted the clumsy saver. But no question I'd get the air filter. But alas, there's no choice!
If I were ordering for a couple: I'd have to consider that any one of the three Premium options my spouse wanted would mean I have to get it, and I would get to enjoy all 3 as well, so that's an interesting angle which makes it a little more sensible. But still.
The guy: "Who cares about auto doors, LED lights, and medical filters?"
The wife: "I prefer good filters."
Fight over $4,500.
vs.
The guy: "Honey, do you want one of these things?"
The wife: "$1,200 for the air filter is good."
The guy: "OK!"
Slight discussion over automatic doors, getting old, is it really that important, etc.. No discussion of LED lights.
P.S., the clumsy saver auto presenting doors prevent door dings and parking lot fights, so could be in the "make back your money in value" category if they actually work right.
Do auto-presenting doors automatically open while getting out? That would be WAY better. They would prevent dings and stuff while getting out and you wouldn't have to turn around to examine the size of swing area for the door. That would make the end of a long day a LOT better, especially if you have errands. But if not --- what's the point?
I'd be very tempted to skip out on the fancy lighting and really have to figure out if I wanted the clumsy saver. But no question I'd get the air filter. But alas, there's no choice!
If I were ordering for a couple: I'd have to consider that any one of the three Premium options my spouse wanted would mean I have to get it, and I would get to enjoy all 3 as well, so that's an interesting angle which makes it a little more sensible. But still.
The guy: "Who cares about auto doors, LED lights, and medical filters?"
The wife: "I prefer good filters."
Fight over $4,500.
vs.
The guy: "Honey, do you want one of these things?"
The wife: "$1,200 for the air filter is good."
The guy: "OK!"
Slight discussion over automatic doors, getting old, is it really that important, etc.. No discussion of LED lights.
P.S., the clumsy saver auto presenting doors prevent door dings and parking lot fights, so could be in the "make back your money in value" category if they actually work right.
Do auto-presenting doors automatically open while getting out? That would be WAY better. They would prevent dings and stuff while getting out and you wouldn't have to turn around to examine the size of swing area for the door. That would make the end of a long day a LOT better, especially if you have errands. But if not --- what's the point?
I read it as, LED accent lights, such as the fog lights, and turning lights, are part of the premium package. I think the LED headlights are standard....
I read it as LED headlights are standard on the X (and I bet within 6 months they will be standard on the S) but the LED fog lights and LED headlights that pivot as you make a turn are part of the optional Premium package.
Russ,
Congratulations.
Does your "paperwork" inform you as to what capacity your on-board is? The only reference to charging that I saw was Supercharger enabled. What about AC charging?
Thanks.
Larry
No, my point is that an S without Pano is not comparably equipped to a base X. The base X includes a Pano-like feature, thus you must add it to the S you're pricing out just as you would dual motor and rear seats.
post number 8 in the following thread provides a photo that shows the center 2nd row seat moving forward independently from the other 2nd row seats:
Can you use the 2nd row seats if the 3rd row is folded down?
The center seat is in front of the passenger | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
I believe it just folds forward like the 2nd row seats in the model S. It's flush with the rear storage well cover.
I configured what I think we'd get. I pressed order. It lets me know I am submitting a committed order, but have a week to change the specifics of the config. then it locks. I didn't go that far yet, since we're not quite ready. Need to really think about the color/interior options. All the tech options, we're ready.
For those Production folks that did go ahead and fully submit, I realize it will commit you to buying/leasing the car, but do you have to actually submit a payment of some sort? We're not getting Performance, just a regular 90D, so it may not be ready for us til April (or beyond), but do we have to have our financing/leasing app/cash ready now?
For those Production folks that did go ahead and fully submit, I realize it will commit you to buying/leasing the car, but do you have to actually submit a payment of some sort? We're not getting Performance, just a regular 90D, so it may not be ready for us til April (or beyond), but do we have to have our financing/leasing app/cash ready now?
Hi dsmeagle - I'm X production res #10 in Canada ... no invite to config or access in My Tesla yet.
I called the number in the email and asked the same question. It's 48 amps included, and then $1,000 for 72 amps as an "off the menu" option. Don't know why they don't just include it on the config page.
My X reservation is still a ways to go, but on my relatively early S (configured January 2013), there was no additional cash or financing needed at time of configuration. However the previously refundable deposit became non-refundable. Probably the same with the X.