I'd certainly like to hear some theories from some of the more hard/software savvy guys if there are technical reasons why an older S/X with upgraded cams, MCU2/HW3 etc is incapable of the beta or remote sentry cam view.
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valem
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Just a guess, but IMO I don't think that our cars are incapable, I think it requires some programming effort to get FSD and these additional (camera related) features to work with our modified hardware, and our cars are are such a minority (less than 100k were made with this configuration back then) that we are not on their list of priorities.
Does not look like a second wave has happened yet… I’m in the first wave and my appointment has been bumped 3 times due to parts not being in… so I imagine the second wave can’t happen until there is more progress in the first wave.
Regarding the button… I’d probably stay opted in but care less about my score if I were you… you can always opt out and back in to reset your score… not sure if doing so impacts your chances..
pf-flyer
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I was part of the first wave and supposed to get the camera upgrade on the 24th, but they called me and said the parts had not come. Now I'm scheduled for December 7th. So yes, they can't yet handle the orders from the first wave.
My 3/2017 model X was given the camera upgrade today.
Yeah I didn't mean forever incapable. It can be fixed with "effort" as you say, but I have no frame of reference for how much effort is required once all the necessary hardware is in place.
"FSD's earliest adopters." LOL. How pioneering of you all to pay for something that doesn't exist.
Did you also pay for FSD 4 years ago when all these promises were made and then get boned? Pound sand with this comment. Hindsight is bullsht.
Considering the reasoning for the driver recording and VIN association, I'd say a reasonable person would assume Tesla will not be inclined to now take the risk of deploying the software on a portion of the fleet without that backup
Also assuming it's something Tesla opted to do and not something mandated by the regulatory body
dbldwn02
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dbldwn02
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Sitting here with my MCU1, Romance Mode, and a bucket of popcorn!
I am confused here...no X and S had that camera till 2021; right? So that would be more than just early adopters.
I am pretty sure there are 2.5 X and S with FSD beta.
Cheburashka
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Yeah exactly. The interior camera was added to the 3 and Y so that the pleb owners could rent them out on the robotaxi Tesla Network that launched in 2020. Allegedly it wasn't meant to be used for driver monitoring since FSD was a solved problem back in 2016. Just needed regulatory approval.
It's possible then, I can think of a range of good and bad potential outcomes if there are other vehicles currently running FSD Beta with setups that aren't capable of driver recording in the event of a crash or other safety issue
I'd imagine it would come down to numbers and risk mitigation
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