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Putting some numbers on the factors that affect range

Discussion in 'Model S: Battery & Charging' started by ChadS, Jan 27, 2013.

  1. Babaron

    Babaron Member

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    Does anyone know of a reference here or elsewhere that lists the consumption in kW for each of the various accessories in our cars, such as heated seats, heated steering wheel,a/c, heat, front defrost blue vs front defrost red, rear defrost, etc.?
     
  2. scottf200

    scottf200 Active Member

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    YT Desc: the approximate power consumption numbers for each.

    Baseline (Vehicle at Rest but Powered up): 247Wh
    Defroster (Rear Window & Side Mirrors CWP): 285Wh
    Steering Wheel Heater: 95Wh
    Heated Wipers & Nozzles: 95Wh
    1 Seat Heater: 57Wh
    2 Seat Heaters: 133Wh
    3 Seat Heaters: 171Wh
    4 Seat Heaters: 209Wh
    5 Seat Heaters: 247Wh
     
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  3. tommywatson

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    Thanks for this thread, as a new owner with only a couple of thousand miles experience I thought I may have problems as I was only getting about 300 miles range on a 2020 S LRP. I found out quickly that the A/C kills the range in Texas and was within 40 miles of running out, basically 320 miles indicated to travel 200 actual, I found the A/C range button which helped a lot ;-) The numbers in the first post make me feel a little better about my numbers/battery even if they don't live up to the indicated EPA...
    Thanks again for sharing.
     

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  4. Babaron

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    A small point, but to keep things logical in my small brain, shouldn’t consumption of the various accessories be quoted with units of watts? That is to say watts of power needed to run them; verses watt hours which would be energy Capacity used To run them over a specific period of time?
     
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  5. Matt1906

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    Hello I just purchased a 2014 S 60 and was told the range was 250 by the dealer which was not Tesla after I sign the contact. That on me for not doing my homework on the different types of battery. I would love to upgrade but have been told no by Tesla. Is this car capable of going from the Bay Area to LA and if so how many time will I have stop to charge?
     

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    What is $CPF1 upgrades? and what is the cost?
     
  7. scottf200

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    You can use A Better Route Planner and pick your 60 in the list to try different routes.
    A Better Routeplanner
     
  8. Myfirstone

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    Temperature
    Battery capacity
    Battery temperature
    A/C
    Wind
    Speed
     
  9. Matt1906

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    Thanks so very much. This is great.
     
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  10. FlatSix911

    FlatSix911 Porsche 918 Hybrid

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    The range for the original Model S 60 was 208 miles EPA according to Tesla Model S - Wikipedia

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  11. FatherTo1

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    #151 FatherTo1, Jan 24, 2021
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    According to many reports, the 60 kWh battery is a software-locked 75 and many owners were able to pay to “unlock” additional range. Are you saying Tesla refused you this option or that the option is no longer available?

    Apparently, another member was able to confirm the 60/75 kWh unlock is still available as of last month:
    RANGE UPGRADE CHANGE? Option to Upgrade 60D to 75D Gone from Tesla.com "Manage" Page
     
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  12. Rocky_H

    Rocky_H Well-Known Member

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    This is a 2014 model year car. In 2014, they only had two battery sizes: 85 and 60, and they were REALLY 85 and 60. The 75 battery size was not created for another couple of years, and they weren't doing software locked batteries yet.
     

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