Some very crude back of the envelope math for Q4 earnings since we now know the deliveries numbers:
Since Q4 deliveries are up 50% from Q3, I will use that proportion for all revenue calculations. This is assuming vehicle sale prices remained constant, which may not be accurate. However, that is balanced out by assuming 0 revenues for Tesla Energy, which is very conservative.
GAAP
Q3 revenue 936.8M COGS 705.3M gross profit 231.5M
Q4 revenue 1405.2M COGS 1058M gross profit 347.2M
In the Q3 letter it is stated: "Operating expenses should increase slightly in Q4, but reflect a further decline in Model X developmentexpenses, offset by increased costs related to expanding our global sales capability and developing Model 3."
So I take that as R&D declining slightly sequentially while SG&A increasing. Overall I am guessing an increase of 2%.
Q3 operating expense 415M
Q4 operating expense 423.3M
Q4 interest income 0.3M
Q4 interest expense 29M
Q4 income tax 2M
Q4 net loss -106.8M
Shares 129M
Loss per share -0.83
However most estimates from analysts I see are non-gaap, so add a few provisions.
GAAP net loss -106.8M
Assume stock based compensation flat from Q3 = 50M
Non-cash interest expense 20M
Q3 gross profit deferred due to lease accounting 77M
Q4 increase by 50% = 115.5M
Q4 net income (non-gaap) 78.7M
Shares 129M
Profit per share 0.61
Can someone look over these numbers to see why they may be off. The consensus non-gaap estimate I see currently is at 0.1, so a 0.61 profit would seem pretty good.
EDIT:
Forgot about 0 ZEV credits in Q4. Adjusted numbers:
Q3 ZEV credit revenue 39M
Q4 GAAP net loss -145.8M
Q4 non-GAAP profit 39.7M
129M shares
profit per share 0.31 (non-gaap)
Since Q4 deliveries are up 50% from Q3, I will use that proportion for all revenue calculations. This is assuming vehicle sale prices remained constant, which may not be accurate. However, that is balanced out by assuming 0 revenues for Tesla Energy, which is very conservative.
GAAP
Q3 revenue 936.8M COGS 705.3M gross profit 231.5M
Q4 revenue 1405.2M COGS 1058M gross profit 347.2M
In the Q3 letter it is stated: "Operating expenses should increase slightly in Q4, but reflect a further decline in Model X developmentexpenses, offset by increased costs related to expanding our global sales capability and developing Model 3."
So I take that as R&D declining slightly sequentially while SG&A increasing. Overall I am guessing an increase of 2%.
Q3 operating expense 415M
Q4 operating expense 423.3M
Q4 interest income 0.3M
Q4 interest expense 29M
Q4 income tax 2M
Q4 net loss -106.8M
Shares 129M
Loss per share -0.83
However most estimates from analysts I see are non-gaap, so add a few provisions.
GAAP net loss -106.8M
Assume stock based compensation flat from Q3 = 50M
Non-cash interest expense 20M
Q3 gross profit deferred due to lease accounting 77M
Q4 increase by 50% = 115.5M
Q4 net income (non-gaap) 78.7M
Shares 129M
Profit per share 0.61
Can someone look over these numbers to see why they may be off. The consensus non-gaap estimate I see currently is at 0.1, so a 0.61 profit would seem pretty good.
EDIT:
Forgot about 0 ZEV credits in Q4. Adjusted numbers:
Q3 ZEV credit revenue 39M
Q4 GAAP net loss -145.8M
Q4 non-GAAP profit 39.7M
129M shares
profit per share 0.31 (non-gaap)
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