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I need to have a discussion with the crappy Owner Advisor & Delivery Experience Specialist who did not educate you properly (or at all) on charging options.

Your car has an onboard 48A charger unless you bought a used CPO somewhere or paid $1900 to upgrade to high-amperage.

The included Universal Mobile Connector which comes with the car can charge at a maximum of 40 amps. It comes with two interchangable plugs, a Nema 5-15 which plugs into any standard household 120V outlet, and a Nema 14-50 outlet, which is commonly used by RVs and/or electric ranges. You can also buy other plugs that you can install on the UMC. I have a NEMA 14-30 adapter (which is used for most modern household electric dryers) and a Nema 5-20 adapter (common in many commercial settings).

In the US, electrical code only lets you draw 80% of a maximum circuit amperage rating. Therefore, if you want to get 40 amps, you need to have a 50 amp circuit breaker. A regular nema 5-15 household outlet is rated for 15 amps (hence the -15), so you get a max of 12 amps. But at 120V, the charge rate is 9-10 times slower than a 40 amp 240V outlet.

The Tesla Wall Connector can be adjusted to whatever amperage setting you like, it just depends on what you wire it at. My car charges at a max of 48A, so i wired it with 6 gauge THHN wire on a 60 amp circuit breaker and set the rotary dial in the charger to output 48A max. You can install more amps if you want, i.e. a 100Amp circuit that outputs a total of 80A, but if your car doesn't have this high-amperage charging ability you're wasting time. Not to mention 3 gauge wire is a much bigger pain to work with and 100 amp circuit breakers are like 5x more expensive than a regular 60 amp one. Its about 90/cents a foot for wire, and i bought my supplies at the local home depot with 25 feet of wire used and with appropriate PVC piping and supplies paid less than $50.

The cheapest install option is to install a NEMA 14-50 outlet. You can use the included UMC. If your sub-panel is in your garage, you shouldn't need more than 5 feet of wiring and a competent electrician won't charge you more than $150.
 
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I need to have a discussion with the crappy Owner Advisor & Delivery Experience Specialist who did not educate you properly (or at all) on charging options.

Your car has an onboard 48A charger unless you bought a used CPO somewhere or paid $1900 to upgrade to high-amperage.

The included Universal Mobile Connector which comes with the car can charge at a maximum of 40 amps. It comes with two interchangable plugs, a Nema 5-15 which plugs into any standard household 120V outlet, and a Nema 14-50 outlet, which is commonly used by RVs and/or electric ranges. You can also buy other plugs that you can install on the UMC. I have a NEMA 14-30 adapter (which is used for most modern household electric dryers) and a Nema 5-20 adapter (common in many commercial settings).

In the US, electrical code only lets you draw 80% of a maximum circuit amperage rating. Therefore, if you want to get 40 amps, you need to have a 50 amp circuit breaker. A regular nema 5-15 household outlet is rated for 15 amps (hence the -15), so you get a max of 12 amps. But at 120V, the charge rate is 9-10 times slower than a 40 amp 240V outlet.

The Tesla Wall Connector can be adjusted to whatever amperage setting you like, it just depends on what you wire it at. My car charges at a max of 48A, so i wired it with 6 gauge THHN wire on a 60 amp circuit breaker and set the rotary dial in the charger to output 48A max. You can install more amps if you want, i.e. a 100Amp circuit that outputs a total of 80A, but if your car doesn't have this high-amperage charging ability you're wasting time. Not to mention 3 gauge wire is a much bigger pain to work with and 100 amp circuit breakers are like 5x more expensive than a regular 60 amp one. Its about 90/cents a foot for wire, and i bought my supplies at the local home depot with 25 feet of wire used and with appropriate PVC piping and supplies paid less than $50.

The cheapest install option is to install a NEMA 14-50 outlet. You can use the included UMC. If your sub-panel is in your garage, you shouldn't need more than 5 feet of wiring and a competent electrician won't charge you more than $150.

You are awesome for explaining this. That is what I gathered from the forums now as well so probably will return the HPWC...No need for it. I am going to charge it daily overnight and the most ill use in one day every is 180 miles so should be fine at 40 amps to charge with the 14-50 included.

I wish the sales person educated me more vs. telling me it charges at 2x the speed. This made me believe to order it and get it installed.

Would love to future proof but my wife and I will probably build another house sooner or move into somewhere else so no need to spend the money now. Plus installing the HPWC could run into issues when selling because its screwed in that it stays with the house.

I appreciate everyone elses feedback as well on this!
 
the HPWC is not necessarily stays with the house. You can unmount it pretty easily and disconnect the 3 wires and crimp them off and take it with you if you want. The only reason i have a wall connector is for convenience so i could keep my UMC in the car for random emergencies. But yeah at 40 amps you're charging at ~28 miles/hr which is more than enough for most people. if you need more/faster then go to a supercharger.