Question for P90D Owners

[Intense1]

I have a 2016 Model S P90D with 86k miles on it. When I charge I get 225 miles at 90% with a full charge (100%) at 250 miles.

I just wanted to query some of the other older P90D owners to see if this typical of what you are seeing as well?

I would be curious to here your experiences with battery life.

 

[kizamybute']

For 86K miles, that's pretty darn good. I was at about 229 with 36K miles.

 

[PCMc]

I have a mid-2016 refresh 90D. It was rated at 294 miles rated range new. I'm at 61.5k total miles on odometer and current full 100% charge is 268-270 miles, so about 8.5-9% degradation. I don't recall what the offset was for a P90D vs. a 90D, but you should be able to ratio for what your rated was new to mine at 294 to get a relative assessment.

 

[Teezy]

2016 refresh with 19k miles, shows 256 max

 

[domodan]

I have a June 2016 P90D (nosecone) with 64k miles and I get 247 miles on a full charge.

 

[cousin_IT]

I have a June 2016 P90D (nosecone) with 64k miles and I get 247 miles on a full charge.

I have an October 2015 P90D with 21000 miles and get about 225 miles on a full charge.

 

[Intense1]

Thanks everyone. That was helpful.

 

[Tabascolorado]

I've got a 2016 90D (nosecone) with 91k miles and my 100% is 236mi. Does anyone remember what Tesla said the range was?

 

[kizamybute']

Several different numbers posted, but OP was noting 90% charge while some of the ranges posted were full 100% charge figures. Looks like, when calculating 90%, most Teslas are performing similarly in terms of range after 50,000+ miles.

 

[PCMc]

I've got a 2016 90D (nosecone) with 91k miles and my 100% is 236mi. Does anyone remember what Tesla said the range was?

The quoted numbers actually moved around, depending upon old vs. new nose.

Just doing a little quick searching via Google, I think the numbers may have been something like:

old nose cone: P90D = 253 miles 90D = 270 miles
refresh front end: P90D = 270 miles 90D = 294 miles

I'm open to others that actually have some of the early 2016's, old nose cones, that have their original paperwork correcting me, but this is what I find from the fueleconomy.gov site and some other older posts on Tesla forum.

 

[Tabascolorado]

The quoted numbers actually moved around, depending upon old vs. new nose.

Just doing a little quick searching via Google, I think the numbers may have been something like:

old nose cone: P90D = 253 miles 90D = 270 miles
refresh front end: P90D = 270 miles 90D = 294 miles

I'm open to others that actually have some of the early 2016's, old nose cones, that have their original paperwork correcting me, but this is what I find from the fueleconomy.gov site and some other older posts on Tesla forum.

Ouch I guess I'm at ~13% degradation

 

[2101Guy]

2017 90d w 11k miles. Charged to 100% week or so ago, 280 was the rated range with 21" Arachnids.
if it matters, I use an SC maybe 4x a year max. Plug in every night at home via Nema 14-50 set to 75% max charge.

 

[cduzz]

The quoted numbers actually moved around, depending upon old vs. new nose.

Just doing a little quick searching via Google, I think the numbers may have been something like:

old nose cone: P90D = 253 miles 90D = 270 miles
refresh front end: P90D = 270 miles 90D = 294 miles

I'm open to others that actually have some of the early 2016's, old nose cones, that have their original paperwork correcting me, but this is what I find from the fueleconomy.gov site and some other older posts on Tesla forum.

I think the later pre-refresh 90D had a rated 288; my April 2016 90D still gets between 272 and 276 when I 100% it, which I do once every couple months. I've had it for about 2 years, and in that time it's gone from consistently 276 and sometimes up to 278 down to more typically 274. I have been able to drive it to close to that range on highways with mixed driving.

I can't find any evidence on the internet though; the later post-refresh 90D has overwhelmed all evidence of the prior version in the google's databanks.

 

[2101Guy]

also, if it makes a difference my 90D has the V3 pack (I checked the label on the passenger side behind the wheel)

 

[domodan]

The quoted numbers actually moved around, depending upon old vs. new nose.

Just doing a little quick searching via Google, I think the numbers may have been something like:

old nose cone: P90D = 253 miles 90D = 270 miles
refresh front end: P90D = 270 miles 90D = 294 miles

I'm open to others that actually have some of the early 2016's, old nose cones, that have their original paperwork correcting me, but this is what I find from the fueleconomy.gov site and some other older posts on Tesla forum.

I have my original windows sticker. I don’t remember whether the range is on there or not but I’ll check.

 

[PCMc]

I have my original windows sticker. I don’t remember whether the range is on there or not but I’ll check.

For US spec vehicles the EPA rated range is shown, at least on mine (I also still have the original sticker). It's in the EPA fuel economy/energy section. There will be a bar graph and the range is shown below it.

 

[Tabascolorado]

also, if it makes a difference my 90D has the V3 pack (I checked the label on the passenger side behind the wheel)

Mine is a V1 90kwh pack and I supercharge a fair bit as I do at least 1 long road trip a yr and plenty of regional trips. The rated range has slowly been going on over the last few yrs. ~2 yrs ago it was 268 so it's ~15mi/yr which is not great...

 

[domodan]

For US spec vehicles the EPA rated range is shown, at least on mine (I also still have the original sticker). It's in the EPA fuel economy/energy section. There will be a bar graph and the range is shown below it.

Yep. Mine says 253 miles. I still get 247 on a full charge. Pretty dang good!

 

[Huachipato]

I would have sworn the original range of my P85D was 253. How could the P90D have the same range? It doesn't seem correct to me.

Edit - I guess I figured out why...

P85D / P90D range compared to 85D/90D

Original specification show P85D/P90D has less range than their non Performance (85D/90D) couterpart. Did Tesla later send an update to Performance cars to improve the range (miles per change) similar to that of 85D/90D? Ex. P85D increased to 265miles? Not sure why Tesla.com used inventory show...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[LWI]

2015 nosecone P90D with A pack. When new, 406kms at 100% (252m). Now at 72k kms (44.7k m) 388kms at 100% (241m). This gives 4.4% degradation which is in line with a graph from a much earlier forum topic, saved for reference, copy below.