looking for new tire recommendations from folks. I've gone through a bunch already as I've got 185k miles on my RWD 2013 P85. So this isn't my first time tire shopping around for the Tesla...lol. I am thinking of changing things up. I'll describe what I'm looking for, my past experiences with tires on the tesla, and a list of tires i'm thinking about.
What's most important to me now when deciding for this new tire set:
Through this time I've gone about 5 sets of tires if I recall correctly. I got about 40-50k miles on each set, although I wear them down REALLY LOW before i replace them (yea i know its bad, the cords were even showing on the Pirelli's....ooops.)
My experience so far:
(OEM) Goodyear Eagle RS
After the goodyears were burnt, I bought TSportline 19" TST Turbines for my wheels, I switched to my go-to Michelin's (awesome in rain, have driven hundreds of thousands of miles in other cars on Michelins, always love them) and upped my tires to slightly wider 255's->
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
(winter) Michelin X-Ice Xi3 (Studless Ice & Snow)
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
OTHER
I've also driven on the OEM 21" contintentals and 19" MXM4's from loaners. Wasnt impressed with either, 21s suck in ride quality, and the MXM4s while ok were still louder than my A/S 3 and didn't feel as soft/grippy.
WARPED / FEATHERED TIRES
I should note that on all 5 sets of tires, after about 10k miles on all 5 sets they all developed severe warping/feathered tread wear pattern. For the first 3 sets from that point on until I replaced the tires when the treads were gone, it got really really REALLY loud when driving. It sounded louder than an ICE vehicle. However, I came to realize during the 4th and 5th sets , that it was the low-suspension setting causing this tire warping. (Tesla also confirmed that to me privately once, but they won't ever admit that publicly). I now have that permanently disabled and the tires while will slightly warped have not continued to get worse and have stayed about the same. I've had my car aligned about 7 or 8 times, so I know its not alignment. That low-suspension is a tire-killer for sure. I won't ever drive on low again.
So now we get to the new set that I'm looking for. I'm not sure if I should downgrade back to 245's instead of 255's. I love the slightly wider look, and I don't want to lose grip,
however I would like to improve my Wh/mi if possible. Here's what I'm thinking:
Yokohama AVID Ascend GT
Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack
Continental PureContact LS
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
It's got 'acoustic technology' according to marketing, lol. I'm sure grip is amazing here, at the cost of treadwear life and efficiency. I don't need the speed rating either.
So I think it comes down to Continental PureContact LS vs Yokohama AVID Ascend GT vs Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack. The Continental's are probably a safe bet. But if others have experience with the Yokohama in comparison to the Michelin's i'm currently using and these Continental PureContact LS I'd love to hear. Or do I take a chance and go with the brand new Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack tires?
Also should I stick with 255s or go back to 245s? Is there much of a efficiency gain or quietness difference between those sizes?
I've searched through the threads here and there isn't too much on those 3 specifically so I'm hoping maybe more will speak up.
What's most important to me now when deciding for this new tire set:
- grip in rain, I will never compromise on this, as its simply a matter of safety. I've had way to many bad experiences (fishtailing, losing control) with shitty tires (and when I mean shitty, I'm talking about Goodyear specifically as both on the Tesla and 3 other vehicles that came with goodyears as OEM first set, so I've got a lot of driving experience on them).
- efficiency. my average highway Wh/mi over 185k miles is 374Wh/mi at around 70mph. I can't get below 300Wh/mi unless i'm doing under 50. I can only get about 160 real world miles on my P85 from 100% to 0%. After my first set (the OEM goodyears) , I went with my go-to Michelins (AWESOME in rain) and a bit wider at 255.
- quietness and ride comfort. the road noise is getting to me. more on that later. but if I can improve on that, great.
Through this time I've gone about 5 sets of tires if I recall correctly. I got about 40-50k miles on each set, although I wear them down REALLY LOW before i replace them (yea i know its bad, the cords were even showing on the Pirelli's....ooops.)
My experience so far:
(OEM) Goodyear Eagle RS
- Size: P245/45R19
- TPC Spec
- Serv. Desc: 98V
- UTQG: 440 A A
After the goodyears were burnt, I bought TSportline 19" TST Turbines for my wheels, I switched to my go-to Michelin's (awesome in rain, have driven hundreds of thousands of miles in other cars on Michelins, always love them) and upped my tires to slightly wider 255's->
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
- Size: 255/45R19
- Serv. Desc: 100Y
Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus
- Size: 255/45R19
- Eco: EcoImpact
- Serv. Desc: 100V
- UTQG: 700 A A
(winter) Michelin X-Ice Xi3 (Studless Ice & Snow)
- Size: 245/45R19
- Eco: Green X
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 102H
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
- Size: 255/45ZR19
- 5-Rib Tread Design
- Serv. Desc: 100Y
- UTQG: 500 AA A
OTHER
I've also driven on the OEM 21" contintentals and 19" MXM4's from loaners. Wasnt impressed with either, 21s suck in ride quality, and the MXM4s while ok were still louder than my A/S 3 and didn't feel as soft/grippy.
WARPED / FEATHERED TIRES
I should note that on all 5 sets of tires, after about 10k miles on all 5 sets they all developed severe warping/feathered tread wear pattern. For the first 3 sets from that point on until I replaced the tires when the treads were gone, it got really really REALLY loud when driving. It sounded louder than an ICE vehicle. However, I came to realize during the 4th and 5th sets , that it was the low-suspension setting causing this tire warping. (Tesla also confirmed that to me privately once, but they won't ever admit that publicly). I now have that permanently disabled and the tires while will slightly warped have not continued to get worse and have stayed about the same. I've had my car aligned about 7 or 8 times, so I know its not alignment. That low-suspension is a tire-killer for sure. I won't ever drive on low again.
So now we get to the new set that I'm looking for. I'm not sure if I should downgrade back to 245's instead of 255's. I love the slightly wider look, and I don't want to lose grip,
however I would like to improve my Wh/mi if possible. Here's what I'm thinking:
Yokohama AVID Ascend GT
- Size: 245/45R19
- Eco: BluEarth
- Serv. Desc: 98V
- UTQG: 740 A A
- Size: 255/45R19 100V
- Eco Focus: BluEarth
- Serv. Desc: 100V
- UTQG: 740 A A
Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack
- Size: 245/45R19
- Serv. Desc: 98V
- UTQG: 800 A A
- Size: 255/45R19 104V XL
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 104V
- UTQG: 800 A A
Continental PureContact LS
- Size: 245/45R19
- Eco: EcoPlus+Technolgy
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 102V
- UTQG: 700 A A
- Size: 255/45R19
- Eco: EcoPlus+Technology
- Serv. Desc: 100V
- UTQG: 700 A A
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
- Size: 245/45ZR19
- 5-Rib Tread Design
- Serv. Desc: 98Y
- UTQG: 500 AA A
- Size: 255/45ZR19 100Y
- 5-Rib Tread Design
- Serv. Desc: 100Y
- UTQG: 500 AA A
Michelin Pilot Sport 4
- Size: 245/45R19
- AO Audi, Acoustic Technology
- Eco: Michelin Total Performance
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 102Y
- UTQG: 320 A A
- Size: 255/45R19 104Y XL
- AO Audi, Acoustic Technology
- Eco Focus: Michelin Total Performance
- Load Range: XL
- Serv. Desc: 104Y
- UTQG: 320 AA A
It's got 'acoustic technology' according to marketing, lol. I'm sure grip is amazing here, at the cost of treadwear life and efficiency. I don't need the speed rating either.
So I think it comes down to Continental PureContact LS vs Yokohama AVID Ascend GT vs Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack. The Continental's are probably a safe bet. But if others have experience with the Yokohama in comparison to the Michelin's i'm currently using and these Continental PureContact LS I'd love to hear. Or do I take a chance and go with the brand new Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack tires?
Also should I stick with 255s or go back to 245s? Is there much of a efficiency gain or quietness difference between those sizes?
I've searched through the threads here and there isn't too much on those 3 specifically so I'm hoping maybe more will speak up.