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Radar Solutions

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Jack, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Jack

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    After receiving delivery on 12-12-12, it became immediately apparent that a high-end radar solution is a must for the S. I'm debating between a Passport 8500ci and 9500ci, along with several other possibilities. I visited 'Luxury Details', one of the few installers of radar on high performance cars in the area. The 8500 would run about $1,600 installed, and the 9500 $2,500-$3,000. The latter seems a bit much for the incremental differences (basically rear phase shifters, and a bit more range).

    Also, i'm hugely concerned about leaving the car with them - even though they had several performance cars on their lot - and about them working on a Tesla. Does anyone know if the Service Center would install one of these kits and have the experience to do it right? What are you all doing about radar solutions?

    Thanks.
     
  2. pete8314

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    I'm kind of in the same boat. I gave my wife the 9500ix, and I 'upgraded' to a V1 for my current car, but I think people are having issues with the V1 and the Model S screen, plus it's bloody annoying if you live anywhere built-up, so that's going, and I need to find a good solution for the Model S. There's a lot of laser round these parts these days (and still a lot of radar), so I want to go for something that shifts, but I don't know what. If the prices you quote are typical, then the 9500ci is too rich for my blood. I like the GPS features of the 9500ix that we have, so I guess I'd be looking at the 8500ci with the shifters, which I guess essentially makes in a 9500ci. D'oh. I care less about rear shifters as (to date) that's never been an issue for me, but I'm very undecided about all of this.
     
  3. Babylonfive

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    I'd be interested to know of any experiences with the less expensive aftermarket shifter/jammers.
     
  4. artsci

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    I did extensive research on radar detector and laser jammer systems before I made my purchases. Basically all of the ratings and evaluations of laser jammers ended up concluding that the Blinder 905 was by far the best and the Passport systems so-so. The added advantage of Blinder is the very small size of the 905 laser sensors. So for laser protection I opted for the Blinder 905 system. Whether one buys a dual, triple, or quad system is pretty much an individual choice, but there was no doubt in my mind that the Blinder 905 was the way to go.

    As for radar, having made this decision, the Passport 9500ci was totally unnecessary, as the laser protection was not needed. So I opted for the 8500ci Plus, largely because, with its GPS feature, it can remember all the false alarm sites and provide red light and speed camera protection as well. Plus it has a red light/speed camera database that can be updated on a regular basis.

    As a longtime Valentine One user, I was reluctant to give that up, and I was not at all concerned about the windshield issue, as I knew I could mount it behind the nosecone. But I had grown weary of all the false alarms and the fact that the basic technology had not changed in a decade. That Valentine One also failed to offer false alarm and red light/speed camera protection finished them for me.

    Of course, I don't yet have the Model S that all this hardware will be installed on, but thanks to this site, I've been able to figure out all of the installation details. The laser sensor placement and aiming is something that most installers get badly wrong, even the so-called experts, so to be sure that it's done right, I'll be doing it myself when my Model S is delivered in April or May (praying for April). I figure I can do the install of all of this hardware in about four to six hours -- a nice weekend DIY project.

    Based on everything I now know, the installation will be a piece of cake on the Model S.
     
  5. contaygious

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    I really want a blinder and a passport 8500ci but jammers are illegal in CA and I don't want to get my car towed and taken apart. To me a radar isn't as helpful because they use lasers here.
     
  6. Jack

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    Thanks for your replies Pete and Artsci - i love this forum!

    I was unaware of the blinder - but the reviews seem quite positive and the differential cost relative to the Escort shifters are not too bad ($150 or so). Seems that the 8500 + the 905 Dual is an ideal solution for me - can't see why i need rear laser jamming - anyone following would not need laser. This would run $800 for the 8500, plus $600 for the 905, plus $500 or so for the install (i'm deadly with anything mechanical - even if it's Ph.D. proofed), so just under $2K. I think i'll have this car for the eternity, so it's worth the investment.

    One question - since both the 8500 and 905 have laser detection - how does that work - seems redundant - i think the 905 has three modes (detection, jamming, and parking (nice complement to what Tesla left out btw)) - when you are in jamming mode, does it also detect? Suppose dual detection of laser can't be too much of a problem. And they seem to be able to wire it into the sound system just in case.

    BTW - 70 to 120 happens VERY quickly - glad my peripheral vision hasn't caught up to my age yet - spotted the statie entering 495 on ramp just in time just a couple of hours ago - need to get this sovled quickly - no more unprotected sex.
     
  7. pete8314

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    I wish you lived near me. The various installations I've seen done by local fitters have been average at best, and I'm kind of picky. I could probably do the install, I'm fairly good at that stuff, but cars can be a little bit more scary, I can't run down to HD for a replacement part that I just broke :-/ If I've not sorted out my situation by the time you get to do the install, I'd love step by step photos, I'm sure plenty of others would as well.
     
  8. raptorweb

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    I second this I would love to have a good walk through. I have done all of my own installs in the past because I received one bad one... If I don't trust them on a much less expensive of a car I sure won't on the S.

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD.
     
  9. artsci

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    I love doing these things so I will post step-by-step instructions and photos when I do the work. I already have the control panel partly completed (it will be custom fit in the cubby -- see this thread: Cubby under the touch screen - Size, delivery, etc.) and I have a spare nose cone and cubby on order with Tesla, the former for installation of the Blinder sensors, the latter for getting all of the dimensions for the control panel right and to make a flip-up door that hides everything.
     

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