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Garlan Garner
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Well, you have part of it right.
The article you reference is entirely believable.
I reside in Louisiana, one of the worst states in terms of hand outs.
I practice anesthesia and often see a payor mix of 70%medicare/Medicaid and 30% private insurance., supporting the article facts regarding government support.
However, it is plausible that the ones who vote republican are primarily the earners, not the takers.
I have been to republican events (prior to this cycle). None of the class you refer to are represented at these events.
They mostly take place on weekends or evening when working class party members can attend.
Registered democrats in our state showed up to vote in record numbers during the past two presidential elections. Before then and I expect after, the numbers will fall back to their prior anemic participation.
As for members of Trump's attendees/supporters, I would put them in the same box as the Wall Street 99%er's.
Ideologically opposed, but fundementally alike.
Mostly fringe fanatics, most unemployed, mostly uninformed, mostly not representative of the right or left. Both are surely an embarrassment to the well informed of their respective party.
tl;dr: You don't know me, or everyone else on this board, so don't paint EVERYONE with one general brush stroke.
Go to a digital photography forum, you'll see people having all sorts of lenses that cost thousands of dollars. But that's not the "general" digital photography population (just an example, don't shred this example to pieces about how different that is from the car --> the point I'm trying to make is that any enthusiast forum is not the general population).
O yeah, and I drive a lot (in the first year with the Tesla I put on about 25k miles). I used to spend $200-$300 on gas a month + whatever money on road trips
Tell me again, what exactly am I doing wrong?
Also, Michelle Singletary is very much like Dave Ramsey. Her advice is aimed at the older/poorer crowed. She makes a lot of good points (I occasionally read her columns), but she's so far off the deep end because of the fact that she grew up poor and her grandmother instilled the principles of finances in her. People who ask her questions are often living paycheck to paycheck. Why don't you conduct a survey of how many Tesla owners, on this forum, are living paycheck to paycheck? I bet it's <5%. So you can't take her financial advice and apply it with a broad stroke to everyone.
If you read some of her other columns, the average American doesn't have $400 to cover an emergency expense and would have to go in debt to cover it. How many people that own a Tesla don't have $400 to cover an emergency expense without going into debt? I'd guess <1%. So again, linking a story from her blog where the average american doesn't understand finances doesn't necessarily apply to the average Tesla owner. Just like a poll on TMC enthusiast forum about the cost of the Model 3 doesn't necessarily apply to the average Tesla owner.
There's also opportunity cost, if you can afford it. And most people on this forum can afford it.
And if you're curious, I got a 6/6 on that quiz. It was very basic stuff. Again, the average Tesla owner should get 5/6 or 6/6 on that quiz, because most people who have money, know how to use money/save money/etc. They didn't get here by being financially illiterate.
Anyways, this reply turned out to be a lot longer than I expected. People form their opinions from previous life events, and it's nearly impossible to change anyone's opinion, especially online. So I wish you the best, enjoy your Tesla.
TMC forums aren't a good representation of the overall "general Tesla population". This is the enthusiast forum.
Go to a digital photography forum, you'll see people having all sorts of lenses that cost thousands of dollars. But that's not the "general" digital photography population (just an example, don't shred this example to pieces about how different that is from the car --> the point I'm trying to make is that any enthusiast forum is not the general population).
Lots of auto loans are 1.xx% now. If you invest the money in, and let it ride, you can easily beat that bench mark.
Thank you.
Some of these folks, sure.
I'm in my 30s, I have a house, a car, a rental property, well funded retirement accounts, a decently funded 529 for my kids, etc. etc. etc.
O yeah, and I drive a lot (in the first year with the Tesla I put on about 25k miles). I used to spend $200-$300 on gas a month + whatever money on road trips
Tell me again, what exactly am I doing wrong?
I think that people who are financing more than 80%ish should get GAP insurance, so yes, I agree with this.
Also, Michelle Singletary is very much like Dave Ramsey. Her advice is aimed at the older/poorer crowed. She makes a lot of good points (I occasionally read her columns), but she's so far off the deep end because of the fact that she grew up poor and her grandmother instilled the principles of finances in her. People who ask her questions are often living paycheck to paycheck. Why don't you conduct a survey of how many Tesla owners, on this forum, are living paycheck to paycheck? I bet it's <5%. So you can't take her financial advice and apply it with a broad stroke to everyone.
If you read some of her other columns, the average American doesn't have $400 to cover an emergency expense and would have to go in debt to cover it. How many people that own a Tesla don't have $400 to cover an emergency expense without going into debt? I'd guess <1%. So again, linking a story from her blog where the average american doesn't understand finances doesn't necessarily apply to the average Tesla owner. Just like a poll on TMC enthusiast forum about the cost of the Model 3 doesn't necessarily apply to the average Tesla owner.
There's also opportunity cost, if you can afford it. And most people on this forum can afford it.
And if you're curious, I got a 6/6 on that quiz. It was very basic stuff. Again, the average Tesla owner should get 5/6 or 6/6 on that quiz, because most people who have money, know how to use money/save money/etc. They didn't get here by being financially illiterate.
Anyways, this reply turned out to be a lot longer than I expected. People form their opinions from previous life events, and it's nearly impossible to change anyone's opinion, especially online. So I wish you the best, enjoy your Tesla.
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Garlan Garner
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Exponential. ok. "when" is the question.
Beginning of a ramp and the non existence of a ramp kinda looks the same.
Garlan Garner
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Where are all of the people with information about all of Tesla's Model 3 robots and such?
Can you please help us understand tesla's progress over the past few weeks to a month?
Can you please help us understand tesla's progress over the past few weeks to a month?
Garlan Garner
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Finally. Some serious honesty. thanks @Moneyfink and @neroden and @luvb2b and others.
And also for the other thread. Highest production VIN in the wild
Back to more pictures.
And also for the other thread. Highest production VIN in the wild
Back to more pictures.
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Garlan Garner
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tomas
Out of warranty...
What does IMO mean?! No, and that's my point. People are jumping to conclusions on numbers when the only fact is we don't have facts.
International Maritime Organization.
shrspeedblade
Rideshare Monkey
Icelandic Model 3 Owners
....and so I'm not just cluttering up the thread, In My Opinion (IMO).
If they fall a couple weeks behind, I find that reassuring not troubling, as it shows a bit of caution even while trying to drive the ramp up!
Garlan Garner
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or unless they haven't made many because they aren't ready and can't.
Tesla wouldn't benefit from having cars sit around when their employees could be giving them constant feedback of deficiencies and such.
Again, that's part of it being exponential, there will be very little to see at the beginning, and we are still at the beginning.
Working at Tesla, and they aren't allowed to talk about it.
Garlan Garner
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Why still at the beginning? That's the all important question. 6 weeks at the beginning?
Funny that Tesla wanted all of the vendors to be ready in July?
Garlan Garner
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I was being sarcastic seeing that Tesla doesn't need any vendors right now since they aren't building many cars at all. They put all that pressure on vendors to be ready and now......they put on the brakes.
Garlan Garner
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Absolutely correct.
It would be so easy for Tesla to say something for the benefit of the investors and/or the 400K reservationist.
dennis
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And they will on October 3rd just like they do every quarter.
Does a bear crap in woods?
Although, I'm secretly rooting for them to say they did indeed deliver 1500 or even 2000 cars!
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