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At least from El Paso to Austin, where the other daughter lives, no issues with charging. We'll just have to determine the most convenient stops both ways. And maybe give us 10% more range than what the nav says, just in case, since I travel faster than the speed limit, to learn how accurate the car's nav is when exceeding the speed limit. It'll be a nice adventure. At least for me. Ha ha.
The point is we wouldn’t be telling someone to do this on the BMW forum if they, in fact, like driving their car.Ok, I will say it...
Why not just take a southwest flight? You are looking at 8.5 hours on the road each way (not including the supercharger stops). You will be beat after driving that amount of time. Total time would be in the 10 hour range. My prediction is you would just do this drive once....
Flying would be 3:15 hours. Get off the plane and take an uber. Much quicker and easier.
The point is we wouldn’t be telling someone to do this on the BMW forum if they, in fact, like driving their car.
When someone says flying takes 3:15hrs, they don't mention that's the fastest connection. Most of the connections are slower. Also, the comparison should be door-to-door. You have to go to the airport early to check-in, pre-board, etc., pass thru security. Then when you land, you have to wait for your luggage.
And none of that mentions that the risk of getting Covid is far higher flying and using Uber than it is driving your own vehicle. Lastly, flying has little flexibility. You're on the airlines' schedule, not on your own. When you drive, you can leave anytime.
I said something similar like this in redditI don't think many have range anxiety here. This will be our first EV, and we don't. However, it's still not as convenient as a gas car yet. I was checking the route to see one of my daughters in Amarillo, TX, which takes us 415 miles via Ruidoso, Roswell, and many little crappy towns, and of course no superchargers anywhere. And no way even our M3 LR would make it without charging even under ideal conditions. So we'd have no choice but to take the 575 route, which takes 2+ hours more... plus the extra charging time. Oh well. At least from El Paso to Austin, where the other daughter lives, no issues with charging. We'll just have to determine the most convenient stops both ways. And maybe give us 10% more range than what the nav says, just in case, since I travel faster than the speed limit, to learn how accurate the car's nav is when exceeding the speed limit. It'll be a nice adventure. At least for me. Ha ha.
We've done that trip dozens of times. It's probably quicker than flight, since there're no direct flights from ELP to AUS. Plus you need to get to the airport (1 hr), at least get there 1.5 hrs before, then wait for luggage in AUS. Depending on connection time, it'd take me the 8 hours it takes me to drive, or maybe more. Plus the cost of a car rental for a week. And with the COVID issue now, no freaking way even if it was just 1 hour. And yes, I like to drive .Why not just take a southwest flight?
The point is we wouldn’t be telling someone to do this on the BMW forum if they, in fact, like driving their car.
I’ve said this before but I think there is too much focus on breakthrough battery technology and range instead of focus on simply increasing the number of charging points. There are plenty of ICE cars even with small gas tanks but their owners don’t worry about gas range. They don’t then tell automakers to make their gas tanks bigger. They just focus on how far away the next gas station is.
all Tesla or other companies have to do is simply make charging points as common as gas stations. We don’t even need massive 30 stall super chargers either. If we had like two stall stations but more of them, everywhere, I think that would eliminate this problem. People can be a bit annoyed at waiting for a charge on a road trip or even waiting in a queue but what people are most anxious about is being outright stranded. We don’t need a battery revolution to get to that anxiety free future. We just need more superchargers
Comparing flying to driving is like people comparing gas refueling time to supercharging. It's not a complete comparison.
When someone says flying takes 3:15hrs, they don't mention that's the fastest connection. Most of the connections are slower. Also, the comparison should be door-to-door. You have to go to the airport early to check-in, pre-board, etc., pass thru security. Then when you land, you have to wait for your luggage. And none of that mentions that the risk of getting Covid is far higher flying and using Uber than it is driving your own vehicle. Lastly, flying has little flexibility. You're on the airlines' schedule, not on your own. When you drive, you can leave anytime.
Absolutely true. In this case, the OP has not yet bought the car. That drive from El Paso to Austin must be one of the most boring, non-scenic ever. It is flat desolate land that stretches on for hundreds of miles. To sit in a car for 8+ hours looking at that landscape is brutal (to me at least). Then you are faced with a return trip of similar duration. If the car developed a problem out there on that long drive, they would be screwed - as there is nothing out there.
I just took a quick look at the airline's schedule. Yes that was the fastest connection. Yes you would need to show up 1 hour before the flight. El Paso has a small airport, probably easy in and out, no long lines, and a low volume of travelers. I do a carry on back pack so that makes traveling easier and quicker.
I’m the OP look at my signature.
With the lower volume of travelers, the plane might be near empty. Airports have been empty of travelers. Wear a mask...
Agree with avoiding uber. Perhaps the OP's daughter could pick them up at the airport.
If this trip was driving through the mountains, along the coast, through a forrest or scenic area - sure take a car. Unfortunately west texas has none of those views.
I used have significant range anxiety - in my LEAF. But then I was relying on notoriously unreliable, single plug chademo or J1772.
Since getting my Model 3 and completed several road trips, now have zero range anxiety.
Setting battery to percent instead of miles also helped.
Best of all is realizing that the 20% warning still leaves me with more range than my LEAF had to start with.
Most importantly, all of my EV road trips have been super relaxing. Anyone who sits and waiting for a charge is kidding themselves. Get out of the gas car mentality, plug the car in and walk away, take a break. The car tells you when it's time to go, usually before you're ready.
The gas car routine is, stop, fill with gas, maybe go potty, then off again.
EV routine is, stop and plug in, walk away from the car, check out the restaurant, talk to a few folks (usually other owners), bathroom break, coffee, food, chillax. The car alerts that its time to go and you wander back the car and leave.
Two to three hours later, repeat.
Arrive at destination after 9-10 hours driving feeling relaxed.
Especially important when it takes two days of that just to get out of Texas
The point is we wouldn’t be telling someone to do this on the BMW forum if they, in fact, like driving their car.
I’ve said this before but I think there is too much focus on breakthrough battery technology and range instead of focus on simply increasing the number of charging points. There are plenty of ICE cars even with small gas tanks but their owners don’t worry about gas range. They don’t then tell automakers to make their gas tanks bigger. They just focus on how far away the next gas station is.
all Tesla or other companies have to do is simply make charging points as common as gas stations. We don’t even need massive 30 stall super chargers either. If we had like two stall stations but more of them, everywhere, I think that would eliminate this problem. People can be a bit annoyed at waiting for a charge on a road trip or even waiting in a queue but what people are most anxious about is being outright stranded. We don’t need a battery revolution to get to that anxiety free future. We just need more superchargers
We sit and wait for chargers because there often isn't much else to do.
I'm not paying an extra $50/night just to go to the fancier hotel that has chargers and/or plugs we can use.
These forums are absolutely littered with posts that say, basically " My car displays a max range thats 20 miles less than when i bought it. It says 220 / 240 / 290 miles now, instead of what it used to say. WTF is wrong with my car???? My normal commute is 20 miles each way. I spent (insert amount of time) trying to balance my battery, its broken and tesla wont listen to meeeeeeeee!!!!!:"
Everyone wants to talk about the 1500 mile trip they take, and how inconvenient it is when using an EV, because it takes an hour longer, because they stop 3 more times than they used to, but perceptions need to change, and one way to do that, is ....... more range.There will come a point when the range number + number of charging stations will get most people over this hump, but those numbers are likely twice as many superchargers as well as like 600 miles range.