Range on my 2012 85kW pack

[David99]

I have two data points.
two cars, both 2014 Model S 85. One has 150k miles and has 243 miles at 100% The other one has 34k miles and has 253 miles at 100%. Both 'rated range'.

 

[cwerdna]

Battery capacity is measured in kWh, not "kW".

 

[Atlantan]

Morning! An update...

2013 P85 CPO purchase date 6/14/16 with 47,096 mileage

6/14/16 47,096 miles, range 255 miles @ 100% on factory 19 inch wheels, Hotlanta summer temperature. Creep On, Regen Low, Range Mode Off.

2/24/2018 62,666 miles( 666#) range 250 miles @100% on 21 inch forged aftermarket wheels, temperate 62 degrees. 228 mile projected range with 321 Wh/mi in the past 30 miles (I don't drive like granny...after all it's a P rear wheel drive car )

Will check 100% range on 2 year anniversary and summer temperature.

I am on B pack. @Dgeorges00 what pack are you on?

Enjoy the weekend.

 

[gaswalla]

Good point about noting the battery pack type. Many 12/13's sold as CPO's have had a battery pack replacement

 

[suwaneedad]

Isn't the range displayed on the dashboard (at any charge level, but in this case at 100%) influences by actual wH/mi used by the driver/vehicle? This is how the LEAF's famed 'guessometer' works, so I presume there's some of that in the Tesla programming as well. So in this case if the OP has a heavy foot, it'd stand to reason that indicated range at 100% SOC would be lower than with a lighter foot. It's for these reasons that I don't expect one can draw conclusions about battery health from just comparing dashboard SOC from car to car. But, I am new to Tesla...eager to understand differences in how Tesla indicates range vs how Nissan handles same.

 

[ChadS]

Rared range or ideal range?

My quote of 252 for a 2012 with 88k miles was rated range.

 

[gaswalla]

Please don't confuse Teslas approach to the guess o meter on a Leaf... Not at all related.
Rated range is based on kwh capacity -dual motors, range mode and temperature have a small influence, but nothing else.

 

[suwaneedad]

Please don't confuse Teslas approach to the guess o meter on a Leaf... Not at all related.
Rated range is based on kwh capacity -dual motors, range mode and temperature have a small influence, but nothing else.

And rated range is what Tesla posts on the dashboard/touchscreen?

 

[tdjvfr]

2012 P85 46kMiles rated range at 100% is 255miles.

 

[David99]

And rated range is what Tesla posts on the dashboard/touchscreen?

Yes. You can switch to 'ideal miles' but it's so unrealistic that no one uses that setting.

 

[eye.surgeon]

Rated range or ideal range, doesn't matter, because neither is accurate enough to make any determinations about battery degradation. You're trying to measure millimeters with a yard stick.

 

[Atlantan]

So on the Leaf there was a way to see the battery State of Health (SOH) with an OBDII adapter and an App. Any Tesla tools out there where one can readily see the State of Health of the battery?

Over on the roadster forum there is this thread that I will have to digest.

 

[Phillip L]

Last time I charged to full 6 months ago, I got ~260 miles on full charge on a 2015 85D with ~60K miles,
The range degradation appears to correlate more to miles driven rather than the battery age. Fair?
I am sure there are other factors such as driving style, amount of SC or other fast charging, how often charged to full, etc.

What is considered too much degradation before Tesla would replace the battery?

I too have a 2015 85D (after I converted your miles to km) have virtually exactly the same rated range as you at 100% charge.

 

[scottm]

At full charge my s85 is still achieving 100%

 

[henderrj]

We have a December 2014 85 S rear-wheel-drive. We're on a trip and I've charged to 100% a few times, 256-258. Oh, we have about 82,000 on the car.

 

[bnsfengineer]

I have two data points.
two cars, both 2014 Model S 85. One has 150k miles and has 243 miles at 100% The other one has 34k miles and has 253 miles at 100%. Both 'rated range'.

Not to get off topic but with 150k curious how much if you know spent on maintenance and issues with car? I have not ran into anyone with over about 75k on there car.

 

[bnsfengineer]

237 miles on full charge last week. 2012 85kwh with 180k miles

based on experience (180k miles) - can increase the stated range by doing 100% charge 2-3 days in a row to maximize balancing - degradation does seem related to age of battery as well as charge cycles.

180k!!! Is she still going strong??

 

[Only Trons]

April 2013 MS 85. 55,000 miles. "A" battery. 90% charge is 229-230 rated miles. Last 100% charge was about two months ago and I believe it resulted in 250 rated miles.

 

[gaswalla]

180k!!! Is she still going strong??

Literally better than day one... Except for very long trips

 

[David99]

Not to get off topic but with 150k curious how much if you know spent on maintenance and issues with car? I have not ran into anyone with over about 75k on there car.

7 DU replacements (all covered under warranty)
4-way valve replaced $300
broken UMC replaced $500
5 sets of tires
2 air filters $17 each
a set of headlight bulbs replaced myself $35
Quarterpanel and rear bumper replaced $18000 (covered by insurance minus $1000 deductible)

Overall the car is holding up fine. Touchscreen now has some bubbles. Tesla wants $3400 to fix it. Not going to do it.