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Range on road trip much lower than expected (<200 miles on full charge)

What was the lifetime efficiency (Wh/mile) with your first Model 3 and now with the new Model 3?

First Model 3 is at 260 Wh/mi lifetime. Current is at 278 Wh/mi. I still have the old car and can easily compare. The old one beats the new one, and the new one is supposed to be significantly more efficient. Even my Y easily beats my new 3.
 

Rocky_H

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First Model 3 is at 260 Wh/mi lifetime. Current is at 278 Wh/mi. I still have the old car and can easily compare. The old one beats the new one, and the new one is supposed to be significantly more efficient. Even my Y easily beats my new 3.
Jeeez. I am really looking forward to getting our Model Y later this year. It's rare for my old 2014 Model S to get below 350 Wh / mile.
 
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Man...I'm averaging about 232 wi/mi in my Model 3 RWD in SoCal. Its crazy to see these drastically different numbers coming out of the colder states. I guess these cars were designed and meant to be driven in CA only.
It seems that Tesla did not spend much time and research in colder climates. I still love the car and the efficiency of the car beats any ice vehicle or even my 2013 Prius. . The Prius averaged 40-50 mpg. My Y at ,285 wh/mi is getting 118.24 mpg. I used the following 33.7 kilowatt hours of electricity is equivalent to one gallon of gasoline, or 33700/285 = 118.24
 
After 13,000 miles, I'm averaging about 267 Wh/mi. About 43% of that consists of highway miles on road trips and Superchargers. We got the car on Sep 25th last year, after summer was over. I expect that the next 6 months of warm (hot) Florida weather will bring that average down a bit. We absolutely love the car.
 
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27K miles on my MYLR 20” with lifetime average of 285 Wh/mi. Here’s the monthly mileage vs. efficiency, living in Colorado. (Tallest bars indicate cross-country road trips.) Hopefully Wh/mi will trend down again as it warms up?
 

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Rocky_H

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Feb 19, 2015
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Its crazy to see these drastically different numbers coming out of the colder states. I guess these cars were designed and meant to be driven in CA only.
That's nonsense. Norway happens to be cold, you know.

Look, physics is physics. It's not a failure of design. ALL cars, regardless of whether they are combustion or electric have higher energy consumption figures when it is cold. That is just reality--not a failure of design. You can't design for physics to not exist. And "driven in CA only"?! Excuse me? Combustion engines have this notorious difficulty with failing to start sometimes in extreme cold. Electric vehicles are immune to that problem. They are just push button and go. Energy consumption will always be high in the cold, but they perform really well and reliably.
 
With over 10k on our 2021 Y with induction wheels, we’re at 272wh/mi lifetime with a lot of very fast highway driving. EPA estimates were wrong for every car we’ve owned. Our Prius was off even for the car’s own estimate. The car would say we were averaging 48mpg but calculating at the pump was always at 46 or less. There are so many variables at play — driver habits, temp, wind, incline, weight in car, tire pressure, etc. The good news is that there are superchargers nearly everywhere. Have to just relax and enjoy the ride!
 
After reading all these comments… kind of worried about the range of a 2022 MYP.

Is it safe to assume that the range will be between 200-215 miles on a full charge?
Yes*

In general I haven't had any issues getting 200 miles on my MY. As a practical matter, I charge at home and just top it off every night or every other night so the only time it's ever an issue is when I forget to plug it in.

*go back and read all the comments. It all depends how you drive where you drive and when you drive!
 

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