Raven Performance Boost OTA Update!

[BigNick]

I expect the Plaid to be around 850 to 900 kW, or possibly even 1 MW at max performance “Plaid+” with launch mode.

It has to be sufficient to beat the Taycan “Turbo” around the ‘Ring and the Porsche will likely have the edge in all-out handling.

It will be closer to the Taycan’s price unfortunately.

 

[Aleks0404]

Hoping raven long range will also get the dash cam update. Obviously jealous of the performance boost

you will get the update

 

[CraZ8]

So 827 hp after the update. Any word on the new torque numbers?

 

[kskog]

Seems like the extra power is used by the rear motor. Rear max is now ~417 kW, front still at 179 kW max.

 

[UkrHog]

Seems like the extra power is used by the rear motor. Rear max is now ~417 kW, front still at 179 kW max.

Thanks for the information.
If that’s the case and the Raven models share the same rear motor as the p100d models why can’t the p100d specs also have the power increase ‍?

 

[MassPlay]

I expect the Plaid to be around 850 to 900 kW, or possibly even 1 MW at max performance “Plaid+” with launch mode.

It has to be sufficient to beat the Taycan “Turbo” around the ‘Ring and the Porsche will likely have the edge in all-out handling.

It will be closer to the Taycan’s price unfortunately.

Power isn't the problem at the 'Ring for the S, its cooling; after 4ish minutes at full tilt it goes into limp mode. Hoping that the Plaid upgrade will also have new pack cooling to let it run full tilt long enough to complete the lap...

 

[kskog]

Is diff between BATTERY_PWR and MOTOR_PWR due to loss in inverter?

If that is true and we use instantaneous VAL below we get an impressive ~96% efficiency!

489.5/509.8=0.96

 

[kskog]

Thanks for the information.
If that’s the case and the Raven models share the same rear motor as the p100d models why can’t the p100d specs also have the power increase ‍?

Do we know the rear motor is the same? I think Raven have silicon carbide power electronics.

The Longest-Range Electric Vehicle Now Goes Even Farther

 

[UkrHog]

Do we know the rear motor is the same? I think Raven have silicon carbide power electronics.

The Longest-Range Electric Vehicle Now Goes Even Farther

Not for sure we don’t. Good point.

 

[Saghost]

Thanks for the information.
If that’s the case and the Raven models share the same rear motor as the p100d models why can’t the p100d specs also have the power increase ‍?

Max power on Performance Teslas has usually been limited by the pack - hence things like the Ludicrous pyrotechnic fuse that allowed higher current flows.

No one has put forward any information about what changed that I’ve seen, but we do know Ravens got a new pack version - rev E of the 100 kWh pack (and now rev F for the last few months I think?)

It’s entirely possible that these newer packs have some change that allows more power than older packs.

 

[Saghost]

Is diff between BATTERY_PWR and MOTOR_PWR due to loss in inverter?

If that is true and we use instantaneous VAL below we get an impressive ~96% efficiency!

489.5/509.8=0.96

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Ravens are supposed to be able to hit efficiencies in that range for at least part of the envelope with their fancy silicon carbide power electronics.

My assumption when I saw the difference was that this was the voltage sag at work - that they were measuring the input power to the drive inverters vs the power coming out of the battery, and the difference is the losses in the wiring as you push a torrent of electricity down fairly small wires.

If someone has a full acceleration run video and is bored in quarantine, it’d be fairly easy to distinguish the two by plotting the efficiency of every frame and making a curve

My assumed theory would follow a current squared rule - at low power levels it’d be nearly 100% and the efficiency would drop as the current loads up.

If they’re reporting the motor outputs vs battery output, most AC motors have peak efficiency near the middle of the power curve, and you should never see more than ~97%.

 

[kskog]

Ravens are supposed to be able to hit efficiencies in that range for at least part of the envelope with their fancy silicon carbide power electronics.

My assumption when I saw the difference was that this was the voltage sag at work - that they were measuring the input power to the drive inverters vs the power coming out of the battery, and the difference is the losses in the wiring as you push a torrent of electricity down fairly small wires.

If someone has a full acceleration run video and is bored in quarantine, it’d be fairly easy to distinguish the two by plotting the efficiency of every frame and making a curve

My assumed theory would follow a current squared rule - at low power levels it’d be nearly 100% and the efficiency would drop as the current loads up.

If they’re reporting the motor outputs vs battery output, most AC motors have peak efficiency near the middle of the power curve, and you should never see more than ~97%.

I will check efficiency at low load.

 

[whodatbe]

Am I the only one who noticed that "cheetah stance" launch control sounds exactly like an Audi R8 launch control?
After 1.5 seconds of keeping the Raven P100D - it starts making the sound which is almost exactly the same (even in pitch) to the R8 launch control.

Nice!

 

[AlsetS]

Do we know the rear motor is the same? I think Raven have silicon carbide power electronics.

The Longest-Range Electric Vehicle Now Goes Even Farther

To my knowledge we haven’t heard from any P100D owners that have updated to 2020.12.15 to confirm that the power doesn’t apply. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[kskog]

Seems like these guys have gotten some more info from Tesla

Tesla Claims More Power for Model S, X, Plus Cheetah Launch Mode

 

[Knight3000]

Hey everyone,

So I got a OTA update last night. It indicated an increase in 0-60 times and new launch mode features. I was super hyped and I installed the software through the app. When I got into my car this morning, the only release notes I got were about the dashcam viewer.

I'm confused, I thought the P100D's didn't get the 0-60 boost?

 

[JPELKA]

So I got a OTA update last night. It indicated an increase in 0-60 times and new launch mode features. I was super hyped and I installed the software through the app. When I got into my car this morning, the only release notes I got were about the dashcam viewer.

I'm confused, I thought the P100D's didn't get the 0-60 boost?[/QUOTE]

Depends on the year of your car.
Has to be a Raven model.

My friend has a 2017 P100D/got update however got same as your only dashcam update

 

[Knight3000]

Strange, the app said increased 0-60 times plus launch mode features. I see the launch mode features for sure, wondering about the 0-60. Why would the app say it and then not the notes?

 

[2101Guy]

an INCREASE in 0-60 times? Thats one update I DONT want to get

 

[Chaserr]

an INCREASE in 0-60 times? Thats one update I DONT want to get

I got that one, it's the same update that removed battery capacity