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Reading the NEM-Paired Storage Account

miimura

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I just read PGE stuff. I see no where that you cannot be on it, meaning, does one have to have proof?

What I did find interesting was this comment on the site

EV2-A and EV-B customers are ineligible for the following programs: Medical Baseline and SmartRate™. EV-B customers are also ineligible for CARE and FERA.

With the SGIP program, one criteria for the ER batteries is medical baseline. So, if one gets batteries, and gets forced on EV2-A, then one is forced off medical baseline. Does not make sense. Maybe this is why the PGE person said one could stay on TOU-c with medical baseline after one gets batteries, even though I may have I misunderstood what she said.
The Tariff clearly states the Applicability of the EV2 Rate Schedule.
You must have a plug-in vehicle or a grid connected battery.

EV2 Applicability.jpg
 

miimura

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@h2ofun
As long as we are off in the weeds, what is the difference between medical baseline and EV2-A and how will that affect you?
Medical Baseline is intended to give the customer additional low cost electricity on a Tiered rate plan by increasing your Baseline allowance. EV2 does not have tiers, so does not benefit the customer in that way. However, it does exempt you from the Wildfire Fund Charge. The Wildfire Fund Charge is $0.0058/kWh.
 
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Ampster

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Medical Baseline is intended to give the customer additional low cost electricity on a Tiered rate plan by increasing your Baseline allowance. EV2 does not have tiers, so does not benefit the customer in that way. However, it does exempt you from the Wildfire Fund Charge. The Wildfire Fund Charge is $0.0058/kWh.
So someone getting a Powerwall on a SGIP medical grant will get resiliency and the lower off peak rates of the EV rate, plus the Powerwall should reduce any need for using peak rates.
 

miimura

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So someone getting a Powerwall on a SGIP medical grant will get resiliency and the lower off peak rates of the EV rate, plus the Powerwall should reduce any need for using peak rates.
IIRC, you would have to be in the proper Tier of fire zone or experienced two PSPS events in addition to being on Medical Baseline to qualify for Equity Resiliency in the SGIP program.
 

woferry

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My PG&E electric usage details stopped reporting when they switched me to NEM/TOU (started out on TOU-A, I have since been switched to TOU-C, have never been on an EV rate). Since there was almost two months they'd still billed me as E-1 my first ~2 months of solar production shows, but then nothing since. So it's not like it can't show production, it just doesn't once they make the switch. :p The combined view also doesn't work, when I select gas an error pops up saying "Sorry, this bill period is not available.", but if I click on the Back to Year View link, then switch back to monthly ("bill view") I can see every month up to today (though it starts me in 2018, so it's a bunch of clicks forward). So it just seems to be a buggy website. But the right arrow stops at last June for the monthly electricity usage, unlike gas. The 'green button' does indeed appear to have the electric data that doesn't show on the graph page.
 

sorka

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Daily/hourly,Monthly - all graphs go away. You only get info on usage and production on the 12 page B&W bill

I guess I'll be installing a second power monitor on the service panel mains and taking regular timestamped meter photos.

Is there even a way to see online what your current net balance is?
 

sorka

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I think you will find that you can still download the Green Button data. It's only the graphical presentation that's done through Opower that's broken for Paired Storage accounts.

So I can still get the data and suck it into Splunk for my own graphs?
 

getakey

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I guess I'll be installing a second power monitor on the service panel mains and taking regular timestamped meter photos.

Is there even a way to see online what your current net balance is?

Yes, you can access the "B&W" bill online, but it is a bit hidden. You have to go through the drop down menu next to your name at the top to use "My accounts and services" (or something like that)
 

miimura

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So I can still get the data and suck it into Splunk for my own graphs?
I don't know anything about Splunk. The Green Button data can be manually downloaded in CSV or XML format. The interval data will probably be either 15 minutes or 1 hour depending on your account. I usually download with the option "Export Usage for a Bill Period" after the billing cycle closes. However, if you like, you can export a date range and the data will usually be available with a few days delay.
 

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