If that is what they mean, then it's almost exclusively a front toe adjustment that will change the "darty" or wander behavior of the car. Changing rear camber of the car isn't going to change this at all, and nobody is discussing a caster change.
I recall reading years ago that the rear carbon fibre spoiler included with the P versions adds several hundred pounds of downforce to the rear of the model S at high speeds.
Gonna need a link to that. Big race car wings that you see on street based cars generally can only do 100lbs at 100MPH and maybe 300 LBS at 150+ MPH. The idea that a little spoiler could do 200-300 lbs at any street speed is pretty unlikely, especially without a massive drag penalty.
Yeah, I agree, seems like an exaggeration. I just recall it being more than I expected. I'll see what I can dig up.
Can't wait to get my car into the alignment shop this Friday. I have set the camber arms up to the exact same measurement ( 286 ) and will use your settings for front and rear toe.. Fingers crossed its all good.. Out of interest - what Caster was yours showing after the alignment? cheers for the info.Yeah, I told him I would take it back home and readjust and bring ti back if it was too far out, but no need. Looks like 286 was the correct length as I have -0.9 and -1.1 camber on low = perfect.
And the toe is now at -0.02 and 0.00 front, and 0.15 0.15 on the rear. Car feels fantastic. Best alignment I've ever had done.
Compared to the 0.16 and 0.14 front toe from Tesla 2 months ago, which made the car ridiculously loose on the icy roads. I can't emphasize how bad this made the car handle, almost undriveable. And they charged me $284 for this.
Thanks to @gearchruncher for starting this thread and the information it contains.
If you do plenty of reading you will see plenty suggest up to 0.5 degrees more on the right for road crown. With hands off the wheel sometimes my car drifts right after over 1 km, sometimes drifts left, sometimes goes straight for 2 km, so it depends on the shape and curvature of the road where one lives I suppose. I am happy where it is at, and a previous setup from 2018 (that was done correctly from a different Tesla centre), that I was also happy with I see there were at 4.0 and 4.1.
Okay, I was a little off. Okay, alot off.
I read about an amount of downforce somewhere else before this was posted in 2020, but this will have to do
Well all I can tell you is my experience. I have air suspension, in the firmer plus version, which was only available for a short time, and I notice no extra NVH with the Hardrace over the cushy worn out oem bushings. And I have both camber arms and toe links.
I have air suspension, non-P, and did not notice any additional harshness.
Your inner tire wear IS NOT camber.
There are a significant number of people, including those who literally make these adjustable arms that will tell you differently. I align my car often and keep positive toe under 0.2 degrees yet my tires still wear out on the inside edge in about 9k miles on a set of 21s or 1/3 the rated life on a set of 19s.
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K.There are a significant number of people, including those who literally make these adjustable arms that will tell you differently. I align my car often and keep positive toe under 0.2 degrees yet my tires still wear out on the inside edge in about 9k miles on a set of 21s or 1/3 the rated life on a set of 19s.
You're in the wrong thread to be making that argument I think.
What Wears Out Tires On A Tesla Faster? Toe or Camber?
We resolve this long standing debate on Tesla tire wear and show you how to solve this problem as well as how to determine the source of your tires issues.
So you're saying that my outer tire wear on a race track is due to toe in, not lack of camber?
Inner, outer is lack of camber and compounded by pressures being too high.So you're saying that my outer tire wear on a race track is due to toe in, not lack of camber?
I installed the Hardrace Camber arms on my 2012 Signature with air suspension. I tried to attach the alignment printout .jpg, but I keep getting " A server error occured. Please try again later."
