You can save a lot of time by making the hole ends 290mm apart, which will get you right around 0.4 degrees camber.
@gearcruncher - do you know what the stock camber arms measure? Curious how many mm this is extended over stock.
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You can save a lot of time by making the hole ends 290mm apart, which will get you right around 0.4 degrees camber.
I'm showing 283mm stock from an old photo I found (this is a 2017 Model X)@gearcruncher - do you know what the stock camber arms measure? Curious how many mm this is extended over stock.
I'm showing 283mm stock from an old photo I found (this is a 2017 Model X)
For me, I was able to use the stock toe adjusters to get 1mm toe in per side when at 0.50 degrees camber and the car set to LOW. That used up all the stock toe adjustment though, and if I wanted less camber I would have needed toe arms.
Of course, one option is to just max out the stock toe adjusters and then change camber to get the toe you want and live with whatever camber that gives you.
Don't remember exactly what my stock camber was. I think 1.2, but that's a fuzzy memory.- Do you know what your starting camber level was? just wondering how much 290mm changed camber.
- When you say max out the stock toe adjusters, do you mean turn them to they extend all the way out as far as they can away form the center of the car? I assume you do, but want to make sure.
Just got both the camber and toe arms installed at 714 Tires in Westminster in the LA area. My camber was way off at -3 and they were able to get everything dialed in close to 0 camber and 0 toe. I will probably have them change it to give a bit of negative camber next time I do an alignment, but so far everything is driving wonderfully. Highly recommend these to anyone with a Model S as I had been going through tires every 10k miles in the rear.
yes 714 tires does a great job and its super cheap, well worth the 3hr each way drive i take to go thereJust got both the camber and toe arms installed at 714 Tires in Westminster in the LA area. My camber was way off at -3 and they were able to get everything dialed in close to 0 camber and 0 toe. I will probably have them change it to give a bit of negative camber next time I do an alignment, but so far everything is driving wonderfully. Highly recommend these to anyone with a Model S as I had been going through tires every 10k miles in the rear.
i highly recommend 714 tires for tesla alignments, they did my car like 4 times because i kept adding or fiddling with things and needing a new alignment, every visit they got me exactly the specs i said i wanted for every angleThanks for the update! I’m in OC as well so might have to use that shop.
I have the @N2itive rear camber arms and toe arms and they are amazing and i love them. But for the front since they don't make UCA's the only company i could find that does make them is hardrace. The build quality is ok and the hole for the air suspension ball is in the wrong spot and i had to drill/tap my own hole and the adjustment is not super easy but its doable. So based on their UCA quality (and lack thereof) I'd say go with N2itive rear parts, they are more expensive but they are also built better. And if N2itive ever gets around to making some UCA's I would swap mine out and buy those.So has anyone else put the hardrace arms on and run any miles besides gearcruncher? Ride quality?
Are you sure about that? I haven't seen anyone else have that problem. Are you puttiting the adjuster out toward the wheel or inboard near the subframe mount?I have the @N2itive rear camber arms and toe arms and they are amazing and i love them. But for the front since they don't make UCA's the only company i could find that does make them is hardrace. The build quality is ok and the hole for the air suspension ball is in the wrong spot and i had to drill/tap my own hole.
SO.... it would appear I will be buying toe links. I've not yet decided if I'm going to buy hard race or another vendor. I'm leaning toward not hardrace just because their adjustment method looks like it would annoy most alignment shops. The camber doesn't bother me/them so much, its basically set for life now.
Bummer, was hoping you'd get away without them. I just bought a set of hardrace toe and camber arms. What is the problem with the toe arm adjuster? It can be inboard near the eccentrics, which is where the shops like to have them so they don't have to take the tire off. Since you're camber arms are staying fixed, I would think that would be good.
I'm referring to the front UCA's when i was talking about mounting issues, also i had a brain fart when i typed that i have Truehart UCA not hardrace but since they are visually identical to each other it may still be true but i can only speak for the Truhart ones being built with the hole in the wrong spot.Are you sure about that? I haven't seen anyone else have that problem. Are you puttiting the adjuster out toward the wheel or inboard near the subframe mount?
I ended up going with UP for toe links, I liked the mid-point adjustment and both sides also being sealed sphericals like Hardrace. Just reach around the lower control arm and you're golden.
Being 100% transparent, I really wish I didn't need them. I am literally just some middle aged guy driving my Model S down the interstate lol... I do not want nor expect performance or a low ride out of my car. I just want my tires to last longer. I feel like I fell down a bit of rabbit hole on this and have more time/money invested than I wanted.
I'm referring to the front UCA's when i was talking about mounting issues, also i had a brain fart when i typed that i have Truehart UCA not hardrace but since they are visually identical to each other it may still be true but i can only speak for the Truhart ones being built with the hole in the wrong spot.